Friday 17 May 2024

COMMENTS GALORE ... 55


COMMENTS GALORE ... 55


Sugata Bose @Anirudha Bhattacharya : He had no clue about the Sanatan Dharma beyond a surface reading of text and gleaning of data. Satyajit Ray was not a deep thinker on religion, especially our Sanatan Dharma. He was more engaged in other intellectual pursuits which hardly qualified him to pass judgement on such an abstruse philosophy, and, hence, his bias based on a surface reading of things. Not once in his movies has he mentioned Vivekananda, not even in 'Agantuk' where he expressed his debt to his intellectual preceptors, Tagore, Marx, Freud and Shakespeare, eulogised Socrates, Plato, Alcibiades as being the keepers of the Greek gymnasiums where 'men sana incorpore sano' (a sound mind in a sound body) was practised, but not once did he mention Dakshineshwar where the best minds of the day met---Keshab Chunder Sen, Shivnath Shastri, Pratap Chunder Mozoomdar, Girish Chandra Ghosh, Dr. Mahendralal Sarkar, Narayan Shastri, Gouri Pandit, Shashadhar Tarkachudamani, Pandit Padmalochan, Mahendranath Gupta (M), Narendranath Dutta (the future Swami Vivekananda) et al. Ray's agnosticism built upon his Brahmo background with its anti-orthodox-Hindu prejudice and further accentuated by his self-admitted European intellectual grooming paved the way for his unsympathetic views on popular Hinduism which are plainly evident in such films as 'Devi' and 'Ganashatru', although defenders of Ray will be prompt in pointing out that he was merely highlighting social ills and not being critical of Hinduism as such. But to cherrypick Hindu faultlines and showcase it to the world is the artist's prerogative who has scant faith in the deeper philosophy and spiritual traditions that Hinduism is all about. We are after all everybody's soft target for we ourselves do not robustly practise our religion. 'The fault, dear Brutus, lies not in our stars but in ourselves that we are underlings.' ['Julius Caesar'--William Shakespeare] 🕉


Sugata Bose @Amit Biswas : No, we must resist. Indifference is the duty of the monastic, resistance that of the householder. This is the prescribed dharma. Householders speaking of indifference betray cowardice on their part. Hence, the alternative course has been prescribed by Swamiji in regard to combating evil. 🕉


Sugata Bose @Parag Kumar Mitra : What are you talking about? Talk sense. What are your motivations? Come clean. See your original comment and then follow the train of my observations. I cannot waste time and mental resource on your self-conflicting observations.


Sugata Bose @Sanjeev Shrivastava : Come to West Bengal and settle down in Sandeshkhali, Murshidabad, Malda, Bashirhat, anywhere where your brother Muslims are in majority and start campaigning for the perpetuity of TMC.


Sugata Bose @Debashish Chittaranjan Roy This observation of Swamiji does not absolve us of offering resistance to malicious propaganda against the Bharat Sevashram Sangha, Ramakrishna Mission and ISKCON carried out by the Chief Minister of much talk and little restraint. The same Swamiji had said, "Non-resistance for the sannyasi, resistance for the householder." On another occasion he had said, "Be as meek as a lamb with your friends and as ferocious as a lion with your enemies." So, to cherrypick passages and render resistance sterile or at best passive ill suits the sincere devotee or adherent of Swamiji's philosophy. However, I have nothing as such to say about the post proper, only its timing and its apparent implication brought forth my spontaneous response thus. Sorry if I have breached privacy or sounded dictatorial for you legitimately have your right to publish what you will irrespective of my stance on it. Hope my stand remains clarified. Jai Swamiji! 🕉


Sugata Bose @YouTube [CLEAR-CUT TALKS] : J Sai Deepak, speak directly, naming people. Do not speak making oblique references. That is a kind of cowardice.


Sugata Bose @Avijit Sen : This post was written by me. Kindly share it instead of copy-pasting it. That would be in keeping with propriety and observing the norms of intellectual property rights. I expect you to do the needful.


Sugata Bose @Debaprasad Bhattacharya : Perfect. Straight solid slap. 'Shathhey shatthyam samācharet.'


Sugata Bose @Tapati Ghosh : Right you are, and I know many such cowards propping up a patriotic front in opposition to Hindutvavādis while cowering in fear when dastardly foes consume Hindus in the age-old predator-prey relation.


Sugata Bose @Tanmoy Lodh : Goal? Which goal? Which is to destroy the Hindus? Is that the agenda?


Sugata Bose @Tanmoy Lodh : Daydreaming despite the dastardly destruction of Hindus in the subcontinent wherever Muslims are a majority.


Sugata Bose @Surajit Kundu : 'Secular' crooks wickedly supporting anti-Hindu agenda.


Sugata Bose @Pkc Chowdhuree : Jinnāh divided the nation, not Gāndhi.


Sugata Bose @Sanjeev Shrivastava : You become a monk and set up an ideal example for all straying monks to follow. I eagerly await your renunciation of the lay life. 🕉 Hindu!


Sugata Bose @Debaprasad Bhattacharya : But Gandhi did not fight for Partition. Did he? His was by way of passive impact. It was Jinnah who did what he did by way of fulfilling Islamic aspirations mandated by the Islamic scriptures.


Sugata Bose @Tanmoy Lodh : So long as we exist because Islam's scripturally stated agenda is annihilation of Mushriks (polytheists) which in Islamic eyes Hindus are.


Sugata Bose @Prabir Ghosh : āĻāĻŸা āĻ…āĻ¤্āĻ¯āĻ¨্āĻ¤ āĻĒ্āĻ°ā§ŸোāĻœāĻ¨ীā§Ÿ āĻ•াāĻœ, āĻ­াāĻ˛ āĻ•াāĻœ āĻ¤ো āĻŦāĻŸেāĻ‡ | āĻ¯াāĻĻেāĻ° āĻšৈāĻ¤āĻ¨্āĻ¯āĻĻাā§Ÿী āĻ•াāĻœāĻ•ে āĻ…āĻ•াāĻœ āĻŦāĻ˛ে āĻŽāĻ¨ে āĻšā§Ÿ āĻ¤াāĻĻেāĻ° āĻšিāĻ¨্āĻĻু āĻ¸āĻŽাāĻœেāĻ° āĻĒ্āĻ°āĻ¤ি āĻ¸āĻšাāĻ¨ুāĻ­ূāĻ¤ি āĻ†āĻ›ে āĻŦāĻ˛ে āĻŦোāĻ§ āĻšā§Ÿ āĻ¨া | āĻ¤াāĻ‡ āĻāĻšেāĻ¨ āĻ°āĻšāĻ¨াāĻ° āĻŦিāĻ°ুāĻĻ্āĻ§াāĻšāĻ°āĻŖ āĻ“ āĻŦিāĻ°ূāĻĒ āĻŽāĻ¨্āĻ¤āĻŦ্āĻ¯ āĻĒেāĻļ | āĻ¯াāĻ•ে āĻ†āĻĒāĻ¨ি āĻ­াāĻ˛ āĻ•াāĻœ āĻŦāĻ˛ে āĻœীāĻŦāĻ¨ে āĻšিāĻš্āĻ¨িāĻ¤ āĻ•āĻ°েāĻ›েāĻ¨ āĻŦāĻ˛ে āĻ…āĻ¨ুāĻŽাāĻ¨ āĻ•āĻ°ি, āĻ¤াāĻ“ āĻ†āĻœীāĻŦāĻ¨ āĻ•āĻ°ে āĻāĻ¸েāĻ›ি, āĻ†āĻœāĻ“ āĻ¤াāĻ¤েāĻ‡ āĻ¨াāĻ¨াāĻ­াāĻŦে āĻŦ্āĻ°āĻ¤ী | āĻ…āĻ¤āĻāĻŦ, āĻ†āĻĒāĻ¨াāĻ° āĻĻুāĻļ্āĻšিāĻ¨্āĻ¤াāĻ—্āĻ°āĻ¸্āĻ¤ āĻšā§Ÿে āĻĒāĻĄ়াāĻ° āĻŦিāĻļেāĻˇ āĻ•াāĻ°āĻŖ āĻ¨েāĻ‡ | āĻŦāĻ°ং āĻ†āĻĒāĻ¨িāĻ“ āĻšিāĻ¨্āĻĻুāĻ° āĻŦিāĻĒāĻĻেāĻ° āĻĻিāĻ¨ে āĻ‰āĻĻ্āĻ¯āĻ¤āĻ–āĻ°্āĻ— āĻš'āĻ¨ āĻ¤াāĻ° āĻ°āĻ•্āĻˇাāĻ•āĻ˛্āĻĒে | āĻ¸āĻŽāĻˇ্āĻŸিāĻļāĻ•্āĻ¤িāĻ‡ āĻˆāĻļ্āĻŦāĻ°, āĻ¸্āĻŦাāĻŽীāĻœী āĻŦāĻ˛েāĻ›েāĻ¨ | āĻ†āĻ¸ুāĻ¨, āĻ¸েāĻ‡ āĻ¸āĻŽāĻˇ্āĻŸিāĻļāĻ•্āĻ¤িāĻ° āĻ…āĻ¨্āĻ¤āĻ°্āĻ­ূāĻ¤ āĻšā§Ÿে āĻšিāĻ¨্āĻĻু āĻœাāĻ—āĻ°āĻŖেāĻ° āĻŽāĻšা āĻ¯āĻœ্āĻžে āĻ…ংāĻļীāĻĻাāĻ° āĻš'āĻ¨ | 🕉 āĻšিāĻ¨্āĻĻু !


Sugata Bose @Samarbijoy Chakraborty : I am not Netaji's grandnephew, the other Sugata Bose, historian etc., but am an ordinary nondescript person. So, stand corrected in case you are under titular delusion about me.


Sugata Bose @Anil Baran Ghosh : āĻŦিāĻ•াāĻļ āĻŦিāĻœেāĻĒিāĻ° āĻĒ্āĻ°āĻ¤িāĻļ্āĻ°ুāĻ¤ি, āĻŦিāĻ¨াāĻļ āĻ¤ৃāĻŖāĻŽূāĻ˛েāĻ° āĻĒ্āĻ°āĻ•āĻ˛্āĻĒ |


Sugata Bose @Sameer Banik : My copious posts to that effect were triggered by your timely intimation of me about the Ramakrishna Mission, Siliguri (Jalpaiguri) vandalism episode. No amount of thankfulness will be enough for that opportune intimation.


Sugata Bose @Sanjeev Shrivastava : Do you get the brother's dot/Bhāi Phnotā from your beloved Didi every year that you are making such observations on me? Is this the fabled brother's defence that you are putting up on behalf of your afflicted sister?


Sugata Bose @Sanjeev Shrivastava : No good intentions of hers, thank you. Plain Islamisation going on in West Bengal to her horrific future consequences and all apparently for electoral gains. Or who knows? May be more sinister designs brewing up things and sealing the destiny of this portion of erstwhile Bengal which Dr. Syamaprasad Mookerjee so fought to secure for the safe habitat of Hindu Bengalis.


Sugata Bose @Nilanjan Chakraborty : Hopefully. But as of now Hindus are facing an existential threat. 🕉 Hindu!


Sugata Bose @Avijit Sen : Say this in Pakistan from where the Mission had to be withdrawn after repeated vandalism perpetrated on its Karachi centre. If at a time when monks are being threatened with death at gunpoint, as at Ramakrishna Mission, Siliguri (Jalpaiguri), devotees do not even hiss, as Thakur has enjoined them to do, but indulge in weak observations which are unwarranted at this perilous hour, then they should openly blazon that they are COWARDS of the first order. Reas Swamiji's virile passages and awakened resistive manhood, the preeminent attribute he so ardently aspired to see kindled in his followers.


Sugata Bose @Manissh Bhattacharjee : But protest vigorously against the atrocities on the Ramakrishna Mission, Jalpaiguri and on the inflammatory remarks made by the Chief Minister against the Bharat Sevashram Sangha, the Ramakrishna Mission and ISKCON. Mere passive piety will not help neither passive pride.


Sugata Bose @Gargi Chatterjee : This is not the call of the hour. We must stand in strong support with the Hindu religious organisations that are under attack from the Chief Minister and her patronised party men, especially with the Ramakrishna Mission which has faced criminal attack on 19.05.2024 and the Bharat Sevashram Sangha whose valorous monk, Kartik Maharaj, is facing the ire of Mamata Bannerjee on account of his working for the defence of persecuted Hindus in his area. At this hour making passive posts that further lower resistance to dastardly attacks on Hindus must be deemed cowardly capitulation to the anti-Hindu forces. Swamiji would never have corroborated such cowardice nor would he have been pleased to see his devotees making such weak use of his messages, cherrypicking those that suit their cowardice and carefully avoiding those that would expose their aforesaid weakness of character.


Sugata Bose @Samarbijoy Chakraborty : This is the photograph of Sugata Bose who is Sarat Chandra Bose's grandnephew, Dr. Sisir Kumar Bose's son, Harvard double PhD, historian, ex TMC MP et al. You are interested in him. Why bother about me, an ordinary person going about his life's business? So far as the screen-shot is concerned, what justification about it are you asking from me beyond the discernment of your cognitive faculties which cannot presumably differentiate between the aforesaid gentleman's photograph and mine? Better will be to go and ask him to justify it. As for myself, I do not seek your commendation or certification of my work, being self-contented (not self-conceited though) as I am. It is a trifle irritating to explain my identity to people who are both blinded by infatuation of Netaji's extended family members and by their incapacity to distinguish between physical forms, and yet exhibiting the discourtesy to duly affronted individuals who they charge with the duty to explain their identities as if they are masquerading as some other selves. Jai Swamiji!


Sugata Bose @Shantanu Bhattacharjee : Thank you for such an elaborate reply detailing data. Immensely helped and grateful at that.


So far as the three-time namāz is concerned, I have read that it was/is a Sufi custom to do so and not the five-time namāz as is generally done.


In so far as truthfulness is concerned, strict observance of it has been long forsaken to suit organisational interest. For instance, Tulsi Maharaj (Swami Nirmalananda) was Sri Ramakrishna's direct disciple. But owing to differences arising over the administration of the Bangalore Math and the consequent court case over it, relations got so strained that Belur Math subsequently disowned him (Tulsi Maharaj) as Thakur's direct disciple and ever since has propagated the falsity that Thakur had sixteen and not seventeen monastic male disciples. This has been a serious breach of fidelity to truth.


Regarding Thakur's temporary practice of Sufi Islam also, as you have pointed out, there are serious divergences from the original stated truths of Swami Saradananda. Moreover, in the book 'More about Ramakrishna' Swami Prabhananda (Barun Maharaj) has written that in all probability Thakur must have formally embraced Islam by reading the Kalima before he practised it. In which case Belur Math must clarify whether it stands to reason or not to assume that Thakur by reembracing multivisaged Hinduism had apostasised from Islam thereafter which in point of fact means rejecting the fundamental tenets of Islam. All such questions remain unresolved and Belur Math does not clarify our conceptions in this regard.


🕉 Hindu!


Sugata Bose @Samarbijoy Chakraborty : Thank you for your understanding. I will of course continue to defend the Hindus and uphold the cause of the Sanatan civilisation and its adherents, persecuted in so many ways in their own homeland, and that too for centuries. What is important is the message and not the man delivering it. Principle and not personality must be our governing guide just as it was in Vedic times and as it has been for the past few centuries in the realm of the physical sciences.


Infatuation is called 'moha' which is one of the six 'ripus' (vicious tendencies) of the human mind which must be subjugated and given a higher turn in order to realise the higher spiritual truths culminating in Self-realisation (Atmajnana). Being infatuated with Netaji's extended members at a distance in generational time is symptomatic of a disease which of course is natural to the weak mind and is best overcome in order to manifest better self-respect and a disavowal of past feudal tendencies of slavish cringing to authority and like lineage. These members have hardly done anything for the motherland as to deserve our reverence, fraught as it is with servility and abasement of self. 


Vande Mataram! 🕉 Hindu!


Sugata Bose @Shusobhan Charit : They are the viruses eating into the vitals of the nation. They make common cause with the Islamists to undermine the state en route to their aspired end of seizing power by force, all the while trumpeting the cause of democracy, human rights and liberalism. These are hosts of antinational elements hell-bent on the destruction of the Sanatan civilisation and the establishment of their utopian state as dictated by Marxist-Leninist principles. They tried it in Iran, aided the Islamists to oust the Shah (Reza Shah Pahlavi) but then got massacred by the  Ayatolla Khomeini's forces. Communism killed at source by Islam. Still they don't learn.


Sugata Bose @Satyanand Bhattacharjee : West Bengal is faced with the spectre of Islamisation. A second Bangladesh is happening. Thus, West Bengal needs to be saved.


Sugata Bose @Satyanand Bhattacharjee : Forgotten Partition? I was not there but you were there. The Great Calcutta Killing, the Noakhali and allied genocide of Hindus---forgotten all? Or is it selective amnesia by way of self-preservation against horrific memory? Or is it the Stockholm Syndrome? Imagination is yours, my child, not mine. Child, I call you because of your naivetÊ in regard to the Islamic threat whose reality only people well-read in Islamic history can testify to. I do not expect such erudition from everyone, though, and, hence, I proceed along my way. 🕉 Hindu!


Sugata Bose @Debabrata Saha : Yes, I have been raising my voice. You must also be doing so. Let us combine force in condemnation of criminal activities against the Mission and of aspersions cast by the Chief Minister against the Mission in a rather unseemly manner as of course befits her, but let us not absolve Swami Suvirananda of cowardly capitulation before the Chief Minister on account of her power and position despite knowing her malicious intent. The way the General Secretary of such an esteemed institution goes all about trying to please the Chief Minister leaves much of monasticism in doubt, leave aside such sublime spiritual attribute of equanimity in pleasure and pain, happiness and misery, heat and cold, and praise or blame. It does not befit a monk to close in on a political personality of dubious ethical credentials thus simply because administrative prerogatives impel him to do so. Swamiji has said that 90% of the monastics are slaves to name and fame, and that the bane of a spiritual organsation is when it hangs on to the sleeves of the rich. 🕉 Hindu!


P.S. That standard argument of it not being the duty of monks to do everything and that it is bounden on lay devotees to do their dutiful bit while being not flawed theoretically will not work here as it is an escapist proposition and not one which Swamiji would have corroborated. "Face the brute," he said. Further, Swami Suvirananda is representing a spiritual-social organisation which as such is well within the ambit of social obligations and is not doing so in his capacity as an individual spiritual personality who is beyond all such injunctions. 🕉

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