Sugata Bose Aditya Srivastava How perceptive you are that you caught the true spirit of the post ! I must commend you for it. However, it would be nice to hear from you if philosophical ideas are meant to be stagnant wells for frogs to dwell in their conceited self-comfort or whether they are supposed to be the wellsprings of inspired future thinking. As far as the sweep goes, you have hit the hammer on the head and kudos to you on that count, for few, alas, few quite comprehend my messages as your Highness has rightly done. Thanks for your effort and do save some for furthering interest for my posts among the general public who are less endowed than you are in reading rightly up to the heart of a write-up.
Sugata Bose Subhrajyoti Bhowmick The whole world is passing opinion. Why bother about mine when at any rate you have made up your own mind and only seek confirmation of it through others' like affirmations while rejecting contrary opinion to yours? If an open mind were to be there, one could hold conference on the issue. Alas, men with limited understanding ever wish to foist their 'ideas and opinions' on others in what is seemingly becoming an increasingly shallow polity ! Hence, controversies are best averted by keeping one's counsel unless it be injurious to the larger interests of the nation and to humanity at large. I know that you have been pursuing this idea of extracting my opinion on the subject and also that I have been fending you off for the above-stated reasons. Self-conviction in an issue should deem it unnecessary to indulge in the act of eliciting a like response from others which is the gregarious way of the unconvinced who ever seeks solidarity of support for something he himself cannot quite repose faith in.
Sugata Bose Pratyusha Mukherjee But the Sikhs are reborn. So, the question of resting in peace does not arise. That is a Semitic religious concept which does not believe in rebirth but rather reposes faith in a sort of 'resting in peace' in preparation for the Day of Judgement when souls will be judged as per their merit in accordance with the principles of the respective Semitic scriptures.
Sugata Bose Abhisek Metya Raise the voice then so that the government takes cognisance of the public demand for awarding the posthumous 'Param Veer Chakra' to martyr Gurtej Singh of Galwan valour.
Sugata Bose Rzishikalpa Paul Let us emulate the hero's valorous self-sacrifice for the nation by ourselves doing something for the nation as well, a trifle more worth than raising empty slogans or offering our reverences to his memory. May his self-giving inspire us in even a mean measure to contribute something to the motherland beyond self-serving and self-survival ! Remember, Gurtej Singh did not care for his life so that we may live. Must we then be pious pretenders to patriotism or ought we to vigorously gear ourselves up for welfare action for the nation in our respective spheres of activity and influence?
Sugata Bose Sudip Chand But where in this wide world of human brutes polluting politics that such a place exists?
Sugata Bose గుర్రం నిరంజన్ That is another matter. Address the central issue of the post and do so by positing credible reason to back your stance.
Sugata Bose Subhrajyoti Bhowmick Depends on the law. Legal experts alone can tell if raising such slogans is tantamount to sedition as per the provisions of the Indian Constitution.
Sugata Bose Subhrajyoti Bhowmick But what are the underlying reasons that prompt such action? Is it a unilateral action on the part of the campaigners or is there another element to the story as well which is being overlooked?
Sugata Bose Ashis Kumar Basu Deadly would mean a killer combination but in my case it is life-giving as in Netaji's and Swamiji's case, too. Nehru's also I resemble but for the fact that he was not a theist. So, the question of orientation of religious belief or conviction does not arise in his case. For my part, I hold all seminal figures of human history in high regard.
Sugata Bose Ashis Kumar Basu Now I am a writer but cannot go about responding to every comment that comes my way. If you cannot understand, what can I do? And if you choose to judge others by your standards, it is your prerogative.
Sugata Bose All gone in, courtesy the non-vegetarians. Poor souls, they have missed the outdoor party, having had to cater to the indoor one !
Sugata Bose Shaswata Majumdar What a brilliant observation, especially, the climactic question posed in the Jewish connection !
Sugata Bose
Avijit Goswami আমি বুঝেছিলাম আপনার মনোভাব । তবুও রহস্য করার আনন্দেই লিখলাম । ভাল থাকবেন ।
Avijit Goswami আমি বুঝেছিলাম আপনার মনোভাব । তবুও রহস্য করার আনন্দেই লিখলাম । ভাল থাকবেন ।Sugata Bose Swami Atmaram Sananda Good one. The two of you, Brahmananda and Atmananda, have literally lighted up the scene here.
Sugata Bose Pijush Nandi ভুল পোস্ট নয় । এই গোষ্ঠির প্রক্ষালনকর্ম চলছে । নেতাজীবিষয়ক চর্চায় ঘোর তমোভাবাপন্ন একদল অশ্রাব্য ভাষাপ্রয়োগকারীদের সঠিক পন্থা দেখিয়ে দেওয়ার প্রচেষ্টা চলেছে । এই কর্মযজ্ঞ শুধু এই সম্মেলনেই হচ্ছে । অন্যান্য স্থানে যথেচ্ছ অবাঞ্ছিত বাদানুবাদ আজ অপ্রতিহত, স্বীকৃত, এমনই দুভার্গ্য আমাদের স্বদেশবাসীর সাধারণ সামাজিক সংলাপ সঞ্চালনের ক্ষেত্রে । এখানে আমার তত্ত্বাবধানে তা সম্ভব হবে না । তাই সুভাষসংলাপ সুভাষিত হওয়া উচিত, নচেৎ. সমাজের বুকে বিষ সংক্রমণ হবে নীলকণ্ঠ নেতাজীর নামেই তাঁর নবীন দিকভ্রান্ত পথভ্রষ্ট অনুরাগীর দ্বারা ।
Pijush Nandi ভুল পোস্ট নয় । এই গোষ্ঠির প্রক্ষালনকর্ম চলছে । নেতাজীবিষয়ক চর্চায় ঘোর তমোভাবাপন্ন একদল অশ্রাব্য ভাষাপ্রয়োগকারীদের সঠিক পন্থা দেখিয়ে দেওয়ার প্রচেষ্টা চলেছে । এই কর্মযজ্ঞ শুধু এই সম্মেলনেই হচ্ছে । অন্যান্য স্থানে যথেচ্ছ অবাঞ্ছিত বাদানুবাদ আজ অপ্রতিহত, স্বীকৃত, এমনই দুভার্গ্য আমাদের স্বদেশবাসীর সাধারণ সামাজিক সংলাপ সঞ্চালনের ক্ষেত্রে । এখানে আমার তত্ত্বাবধানে তা সম্ভব হবে না । তাই সুভাষসংলাপ সুভাষিত হওয়া উচিত, নচেৎ. সমাজের বুকে বিষ সংক্রমণ হবে নীলকণ্ঠ নেতাজীর নামেই তাঁর নবীন দিকভ্রান্ত পথভ্রষ্ট অনুরাগীর দ্বারা ।Sugata Bose Pijush Nandi সর্বৈব ভ্রান্ত ধারণা । কল্পনা বল্গাবিহীন । আর প্রেম সর্বভূতেই যথার্থ সম্ভব । বাকি প্রেমের প্রদর্শনমাত্র, প্রেম নয় । তাই সকলের প্রতি প্রেমই শ্রেয় ।
Pijush Nandi সর্বৈব ভ্রান্ত ধারণা । কল্পনা বল্গাবিহীন । আর প্রেম সর্বভূতেই যথার্থ সম্ভব । বাকি প্রেমের প্রদর্শনমাত্র, প্রেম নয় । তাই সকলের প্রতি প্রেমই শ্রেয় ।Sugata Bose Sabyasachi Das বেশ রসিকতা করে বলেন, মহাশয় । তবে রহস্য গ্রহণ করেই বলছি যে অদ্বৈত বেদান্ত-সিদ্ধান্ত অবশ্য এক মহান বিশ্বসত্য যার প্রমুখ প্রবক্তা স্বয়ং স্বামী বিবেকানন্দ, আদি শংকরাচার্যের কথা বলাই বাহুল্য ।
Sabyasachi Das বেশ রসিকতা করে বলেন, মহাশয় । তবে রহস্য গ্রহণ করেই বলছি যে অদ্বৈত বেদান্ত-সিদ্ধান্ত অবশ্য এক মহান বিশ্বসত্য যার প্রমুখ প্রবক্তা স্বয়ং স্বামী বিবেকানন্দ, আদি শংকরাচার্যের কথা বলাই বাহুল্য ।Sugata Bose Sabyasachi Mukherjee Do not sully your otherwise so well-articulated comment with corrosive epithet please. Displeasure has other alternative verbal expressions that, I am sure many will agree, are more effective in driving home a pertinent point. Your Netaji quote here serves as its brightest illustration. Stay well and continue to serve the cause of the motherland in your eloquent and erudite way.
Sabyasachi Mukherjee Do not sully your otherwise so well-articulated comment with corrosive epithet please. Displeasure has other alternative verbal expressions that, I am sure many will agree, are more effective in driving home a pertinent point. Your Netaji quote here serves as its brightest illustration. Stay well and continue to serve the cause of the motherland in your eloquent and erudite way.Sugata Bose Sabyasachi Mukherjee First you abuse and then proceed to advise me. You do not deserve a place here in this forum meant for civilised discussion.
Sabyasachi Mukherjee First you abuse and then proceed to advise me. You do not deserve a place here in this forum meant for civilised discussion.Now to the pertinent point. Netaji held these 'so-called adversaries' of his in the highest regard despite the ideological and political differences they had with him. He never stooped to these lowly levels of vicious vituperation as abound these days among his so-called followers as is exemplified by your abusive epithet above which merits strongest condemnation. Instead of passing peremptory prohibitory orders on what I ought to write or not, it would be meet that you yourself refrain from using uncivil language. As administrator I am fully aware of my responsibilities in conducting the course of discussion here on this group page which for the past six years I have been doing with grace and civility. Hence, your directive unto me is unwarranted. Thank you. God bless you !
Sugata Bose Dhruba Choudhury আমি আপনার মনঃকল্পিত ঐতিহাসিক সুগত বসু নই । আমি আর এক সুগত বসু । এবার ঘৃণা বর্জন করুন । সপ্রেম শক্তিমান হন । ভাল থাকবেন ।
Dhruba Choudhury আমি আপনার মনঃকল্পিত ঐতিহাসিক সুগত বসু নই । আমি আর এক সুগত বসু । এবার ঘৃণা বর্জন করুন । সপ্রেম শক্তিমান হন । ভাল থাকবেন ।তবে ঘৃণা তারে যেন তৃণসম দহে " -- এ ঘৃণা জ্ঞানে ভূষিত অন্য মাত্রার । কিন্তু যে ঘৃণা অজ্ঞানপ্রসূত, দুর্বলের আক্রোশেআক্রোশের প্রকাশ, কর্মহীন মানুষের ধর্মহীনতার নিষ্ফল বহিঃপ্রকাশ, তা বর্জনীয় বলে বোধ করি কারণ তা অপরকে খাটো করতে গিয়ে নিজেকে ক্ষুদ্র করে, প্রতিনিয়ত খর্ব করে ।
Sugata Bose Juthika Sarkar কারণ সুভাষচন্দ্র বসু এভাবে তাঁদের দেখতেন না । কল্পনার মাত্রা ব্যক্তিগত বিষয় । সে বিষয় আর বললাম না । কিছু বলা বাহুল্য বলে পরিগণিত হতে পারে ।
Juthika Sarkar কারণ সুভাষচন্দ্র বসু এভাবে তাঁদের দেখতেন না । কল্পনার মাত্রা ব্যক্তিগত বিষয় । সে বিষয় আর বললাম না । কিছু বলা বাহুল্য বলে পরিগণিত হতে পারে ।Sugata Bose Juthika Sarkar স্পর্ধা দেখলে বিস্মিত হই । শব্দপ্রয়োগের কিছু তাৎপর্য থাকে । তা না বুঝে এ হেন মন্তব্য স্বল্পবুদ্ধি ও স্বল্পতর বোধের পরিচায়ক হয়ে পড়ল ।
Juthika Sarkar স্পর্ধা দেখলে বিস্মিত হই । শব্দপ্রয়োগের কিছু তাৎপর্য থাকে । তা না বুঝে এ হেন মন্তব্য স্বল্পবুদ্ধি ও স্বল্পতর বোধের পরিচায়ক হয়ে পড়ল ।Sugata Bose Diganta Sengupta Follow none. Study all. Follow only 'the dictate that comes from within' of the divinity that sleeps not but whose ever-wakefulness we are unaware of.
Diganta Sengupta Follow none. Study all. Follow only 'the dictate that comes from within' of the divinity that sleeps not but whose ever-wakefulness we are unaware of.Sugata Bose Diganta Sengupta You should not respect fanaticism, Diganta. You should try and only bring sanity to the discussion. I hope I have not transgressed my civil liberty limits in providing gratis advice.
Diganta Sengupta You should not respect fanaticism, Diganta. You should try and only bring sanity to the discussion. I hope I have not transgressed my civil liberty limits in providing gratis advice.Sugata Bose দেবনাথ সর তা করবেন না কিন্তু দিবারাত্র নেতিবাচক মন্তব্য করার মধ্যে দেশের কোন হিতসাধন হয় বলে জানি না ।
দেবনাথ সর তা করবেন না কিন্তু দিবারাত্র নেতিবাচক মন্তব্য করার মধ্যে দেশের কোন হিতসাধন হয় বলে জানি না ।Sugata Bose Biman Banerjee সমস্যা সাধারণকে নিয়ে নয় । তাঁদের যাঁরা মস্তিষ্ক বিকৃত করছেন, সেই সকল সুচতুর কতিপয় তথাকথিত বিদ্বজ্জনকে নিয়ে যাঁরা সমাজের বুকে বিষ সংক্রমণ করছেন ।
Biman Banerjee সমস্যা সাধারণকে নিয়ে নয় । তাঁদের যাঁরা মস্তিষ্ক বিকৃত করছেন, সেই সকল সুচতুর কতিপয় তথাকথিত বিদ্বজ্জনকে নিয়ে যাঁরা সমাজের বুকে বিষ সংক্রমণ করছেন ।Sugata Bose Ashok Karali No, they were not related to each other by blood-bond but were related by their common love for the motherland and their life's mission to free her from colonial bondage. Their conjoint effort during the Second World War to lead their country's struggle for political freedom from the British brought them further into close cooperative bonding with the junior Bose seeking the guidance of the senior in his crusade against colonialism.
Ashok Karali No, they were not related to each other by blood-bond but were related by their common love for the motherland and their life's mission to free her from colonial bondage. Their conjoint effort during the Second World War to lead their country's struggle for political freedom from the British brought them further into close cooperative bonding with the junior Bose seeking the guidance of the senior in his crusade against colonialism.Sugata Bose Sonu Mazumder এ ভাব ভাল না । এতে সংস্কার খারাপ হয় । একজনকে শ্রদ্ধা করতে গেলে যদি অপরকে ঘৃণা করতে হয়, তো তা শ্রদ্ধাভাজনেরই অপমানের সামিল হয় ।
Sonu Mazumder এ ভাব ভাল না । এতে সংস্কার খারাপ হয় । একজনকে শ্রদ্ধা করতে গেলে যদি অপরকে ঘৃণা করতে হয়, তো তা শ্রদ্ধাভাজনেরই অপমানের সামিল হয় ।Sugata Bose Ranjit Das Read and read and read, and you will get to know everything that now remains in the dark.
Ranjit Das Read and read and read, and you will get to know everything that now remains in the dark.Sugata Bose Juthika Sarkar That would be defamatory to Netaji, Tagore, Rash Behari Bose and to a host of our seminal leaders who thus regarded him as the 'Mahatma'. Surely, they did not entertain your malicious ideas about this stupendous son of the soil, nay, of whole humanity. Einstein had stated after the passing away of Mahatma Gandhi that 'generations will scarce believe that such a one in flesh and blood ever walked upon the face of this earth.'
Juthika Sarkar That would be defamatory to Netaji, Tagore, Rash Behari Bose and to a host of our seminal leaders who thus regarded him as the 'Mahatma'. Surely, they did not entertain your malicious ideas about this stupendous son of the soil, nay, of whole humanity. Einstein had stated after the passing away of Mahatma Gandhi that 'generations will scarce believe that such a one in flesh and blood ever walked upon the face of this earth.'Sugata Bose Ghosh Gorachand Your statements about Netaji are your claims. Can you provide authentication of them from documents or credible books other than of your own authorship?
Ghosh Gorachand Your statements about Netaji are your claims. Can you provide authentication of them from documents or credible books other than of your own authorship?Sugata Bose Kingsuk Ghosh Study all the writings of Nehru before formulating hazardous hasty judgement. The court always hears the case in detail and there is a provision for self-defence. Let Nehru directly speak to you through his myriad writings to enlighten you on his now supposed status, courtesy, online fractured reading.
Kingsuk Ghosh Study all the writings of Nehru before formulating hazardous hasty judgement. The court always hears the case in detail and there is a provision for self-defence. Let Nehru directly speak to you through his myriad writings to enlighten you on his now supposed status, courtesy, online fractured reading.Sugata Bose Shantanand Saraswati You ought to practise humility. From your language this is what I infer.
Sugata Bose Shantanand Saraswati I cannot quite understand why you are bothered about what I am. Why do you not keep to the content of the post and address it in a more intellectual way?
Sugata Bose Abhik Nayak আমি ঘৃণারূপ বৃত্তিটিকে মানসিক দুর্বলতা মনে করি ও সমর্থন করি না । অবশ্য আপনি যে এই শাস্ত্রসিদ্ধান্তের সাথে সহমত হবেন, এমনটিও আশা করি না ।
Abhik Nayak আমি ঘৃণারূপ বৃত্তিটিকে মানসিক দুর্বলতা মনে করি ও সমর্থন করি না । অবশ্য আপনি যে এই শাস্ত্রসিদ্ধান্তের সাথে সহমত হবেন, এমনটিও আশা করি না ।Sugata Bose Amit Kumar Pal সবাই মানুষ । দোষেগুণে, চারিত্রমাহাত্ম্যে, চারিত্রিক নীচতায়, সবাই সেই একই ব্রহ্মের প্রকাশ । গ্রহণের পরিধি যদি এত সংকীর্ণ হয়, তো শেষে নিজ চরিত্র খর্ব হয়ে দুঃখের কারণ হবে । তখন নেতাজীর প্রতি অনুরাগও ক্ষয়িষ্ণু হবে । তাই উন্নত, উদারভাবই ভাল ।
Amit Kumar Pal সবাই মানুষ । দোষেগুণে, চারিত্রমাহাত্ম্যে, চারিত্রিক নীচতায়, সবাই সেই একই ব্রহ্মের প্রকাশ । গ্রহণের পরিধি যদি এত সংকীর্ণ হয়, তো শেষে নিজ চরিত্র খর্ব হয়ে দুঃখের কারণ হবে । তখন নেতাজীর প্রতি অনুরাগও ক্ষয়িষ্ণু হবে । তাই উন্নত, উদারভাবই ভাল ।Sugata Bose Subrata Roy যদিও কবিতাটি রবীন্দ্রনাথ স্বপ্নেও গান্ধীজী প্রমুখের উদ্দেশ্যে কখনো উচ্চারণ করতেন না ।
Subrata Roy যদিও কবিতাটি রবীন্দ্রনাথ স্বপ্নেও গান্ধীজী প্রমুখের উদ্দেশ্যে কখনো উচ্চারণ করতেন না ।Sugata Bose Subhas Chanda স্বাভাবিকতা তো সংস্কৃতিসাপেক্ষ । তাই আত্মোন্নয়নের প্রয়োজন । সভ্যতার অবনমনকে স্বাভাবিক বলে মেনে নিলে বর্বরকালে ফিরে যেতে হবে ক্রমশঃ যা বিবর্তনবিরোধী পশ্চাৎ অপসরণমাত্র ও একান্ত অনভিপ্রেত ।
Subhas Chanda স্বাভাবিকতা তো সংস্কৃতিসাপেক্ষ । তাই আত্মোন্নয়নের প্রয়োজন । সভ্যতার অবনমনকে স্বাভাবিক বলে মেনে নিলে বর্বরকালে ফিরে যেতে হবে ক্রমশঃ যা বিবর্তনবিরোধী পশ্চাৎ অপসরণমাত্র ও একান্ত অনভিপ্রেত ।Sugata Bose Subhas Chanda তাই বলে জেনেশুনে তা বর্ধন করতে আমার মত অনেকেই নারাজ । আমরা এর প্রতিকারে সচেষ্ট । স্বামীজীর ভাষায়, "Wait not for a prophet to come and save you but be a prophet unto others."
Subhas Chanda তাই বলে জেনেশুনে তা বর্ধন করতে আমার মত অনেকেই নারাজ । আমরা এর প্রতিকারে সচেষ্ট । স্বামীজীর ভাষায়, "Wait not for a prophet to come and save you but be a prophet unto others."Sugata Bose Swami Ekarthananda Puri Maharaj, you are a bubble-tank of humour. Your posts bring cheer to an otherwise dry day on Facebook that is full of foul feeling from fellows one would have deemed friends. But humour has its way and eases one into enjoying one's association in Facebook. Here you play the ace psychologist's role and bring peace to a fever-stricken soul.
Sugata Bose Neeta Banerjee Difficult to envisage one in a country so enamoured of religious revivalism of an archaic sort. It would require leaders to be thrown up who have the right scientific attitude to deal with the problems of modern civilisation. For that to happen the common man must shed all these notions of a re-visitation of ancient times and focus on the acquisition of modern education and a modern attitude, for out of the general mass of the people are leaders thrown up. The country needs greater education and the passage of one or two generations more before it wakes up to its horrendous fate that will be then knocking on its doors. The overall picture is bleak when one notices the sheer foolishness of the lay public from their interaction on social media and their callous attitude to contentious national and global problems beyond raising the ruckus over communal issues that are so symptomatic of the times. When the nation dies, all these communities will have an equal death. Hence, we have to rise in education and enlightenment to deal with the current maladies and for this it does not seem to me that the nation in all its obliviousness is quite ready right now. We, as individual citizens, must fight on to kindle consciousness among the people in our own not so insignificant capacities and, so, discharge our duties better instead of blaming everything constantly on the government which remains the principal agency of change, though. I, for my part, am doing my wee bit. So do you and others will follow suit, I am sure.
Sugata Bose Ghosh Gorachand Gandhiji never divided the nation along communal lines. That was owing to the resolution of historical forces.
Ghosh Gorachand Gandhiji never divided the nation along communal lines. That was owing to the resolution of historical forces.Sugata Bose Soumitra Das না, আমি ঠিক করছি না । নেতাজীর আদর্শ যা তাঁর রচনা ও বক্তৃতায় পাওয়া যায়, তাই ঠিক করছে ।
Soumitra Das না, আমি ঠিক করছি না । নেতাজীর আদর্শ যা তাঁর রচনা ও বক্তৃতায় পাওয়া যায়, তাই ঠিক করছে ।Sugata Bose Soumitra Das অবশ্যই আছে মানুষের চিন্তার ব্যক্তিগত সাতন্ত্র । তাই বলে নেতাজীর ভক্ত বলে পরিচয় দেওয়া আবার সাম্প্রদায়িক গরল সমাজের বুকে ছড়ানো ?
Soumitra Das অবশ্যই আছে মানুষের চিন্তার ব্যক্তিগত সাতন্ত্র । তাই বলে নেতাজীর ভক্ত বলে পরিচয় দেওয়া আবার সাম্প্রদায়িক গরল সমাজের বুকে ছড়ানো ?Sugata Bose Soumitra Das Netaji was completely opposed to India being a theocratic state. Do you know that?
Soumitra Das Netaji was completely opposed to India being a theocratic state. Do you know that?Sugata Bose Soumitra Das This is a fantastic theorising on Netaji's future actions. Now it has been proved beyond a shadow of doubt how ignorant most people who clamour as being ardent devotees of Netaji in essence are.
Soumitra Das This is a fantastic theorising on Netaji's future actions. Now it has been proved beyond a shadow of doubt how ignorant most people who clamour as being ardent devotees of Netaji in essence are.Sugata Bose Soumitra Das Understand what you say and remember that your assumptions about Netaji are not founded in fact. As regards respect, it is for you to maintain of your own accord and your own free will. I am neither craving for it nor am I in any way dependent on it. I have never assumed the titular or imaginary position of Netaji. So, that assertion of yours falls flat. Moreover, I have not stated anything fabricated here on Facebook as you suppose and aver.
Soumitra Das Understand what you say and remember that your assumptions about Netaji are not founded in fact. As regards respect, it is for you to maintain of your own accord and your own free will. I am neither craving for it nor am I in any way dependent on it. I have never assumed the titular or imaginary position of Netaji. So, that assertion of yours falls flat. Moreover, I have not stated anything fabricated here on Facebook as you suppose and aver.Sugata Bose Arup Mukherjee, someone calls me a pimp and you give a 'love' sign to it? Why do you thus indulge such people? Does it mean you hold a similar view?
Arup Mukherjee, someone calls me a pimp and you give a 'love' sign to it? Why do you thus indulge such people? Does it mean you hold a similar view?Sugata Bose Parbati Aikat If respect is so flimsy, it is better to lose it. I am being misapprehended by you owing to your predilections and prior persuasions which do not permit you to understand me in the proper light. The problem is yours and the solution shall also come to you from within in due course of time. I am not one of those who condone communalism and the persecution of Hindus that has been for a thousand years of occupation and terror. I vehemently oppose such attempts to wipe out the Hindus from the face of the earth. However, you choose to arrive at your sweeping conclusion about me and that is well. Hope clarity comes with greater reflection and evolution of thinking. Till then my only suggestion is that you will suspend judgement about others till you know them well enough and have developed the powers of proper perception about their writings and expressions. God bless you !
Parbati Aikat If respect is so flimsy, it is better to lose it. I am being misapprehended by you owing to your predilections and prior persuasions which do not permit you to understand me in the proper light. The problem is yours and the solution shall also come to you from within in due course of time. I am not one of those who condone communalism and the persecution of Hindus that has been for a thousand years of occupation and terror. I vehemently oppose such attempts to wipe out the Hindus from the face of the earth. However, you choose to arrive at your sweeping conclusion about me and that is well. Hope clarity comes with greater reflection and evolution of thinking. Till then my only suggestion is that you will suspend judgement about others till you know them well enough and have developed the powers of proper perception about their writings and expressions. God bless you !Sugata Bose Madhusudan Pal You are misleading people about my intent, having yourself been first misled by incorrect judgement about me.
Madhusudan Pal You are misleading people about my intent, having yourself been first misled by incorrect judgement about me.Sugata Bose Madhusudan Pal Stop spreading, thus, misinformation about me and, so, deluding gullible people who look up to you for guidance. It is expected of a gentleman, to say the least.
Madhusudan Pal Stop spreading, thus, misinformation about me and, so, deluding gullible people who look up to you for guidance. It is expected of a gentleman, to say the least.Sugata Bose Angsuman Chakraborty সে আপনার অভিরুচি কিভাবে অনুধ্যান করেন ও তৎপশ্চাতে ভাবপোষণ ও বক্তব্যপেশ ।
Angsuman Chakraborty সে আপনার অভিরুচি কিভাবে অনুধ্যান করেন ও তৎপশ্চাতে ভাবপোষণ ও বক্তব্যপেশ ।Sugata Bose Manjima Sen Shome Indeed, there is. Nowadays, terminologies are being redefined off-hand by the ones endowed with the latter attribute and with impunity, too, for all are social journalists with the democratic right to diatribe.
Manjima Sen Shome Indeed, there is. Nowadays, terminologies are being redefined off-hand by the ones endowed with the latter attribute and with impunity, too, for all are social journalists with the democratic right to diatribe.Sugata Bose Manjima Sen Shome But character once formed on the basis of true spiritual realisation endures the vicissitudes of time.
Manjima Sen Shome But character once formed on the basis of true spiritual realisation endures the vicissitudes of time.Sugata Bose Uttam Mukherjee But at a terrible human cost. However, I do agree with you that it was Marx who brought to the fore the issue of this terrible exploitation of the vast majority of the human population through the misuse of capital designed entirely to produce profit for the handful and not for the labourers who produce the means of such profit. However, I feel Marxism's great shortcoming is in providing for a human model for bringing about the revolutionary socioeconomic transformation which it proposes. Perhaps, Marx had well considered the problem and could only arrive at this conclusion that it would have to be by violent force for the forces of capitalism pitted against this proposed transformation were, in alliance with the powers of the exploitative machinery of the state, equally violent. This was the jigsaw and it could not be resolved in the then prevailing conditions during Marx's lifetime.
But Bertrand Russell had long after, in reviewing Marxism, said that such a violent recourse for bringing about human good would not be necessary in the future as science evolves and develops resources so abundantly that all of humanity would be possible to care for that would allow them all a decent means of earthly survival. The abandonment of socialism in the strictest economic sense by all communist countries is in itself a vindication of the truth espoused by Russell to that effect. China and Russia have both gone the capitalist way -- not that I vouch for the brutality of the capitalist system but that I am merely stating historical facts -- and prospered in varying degrees. Socialism in its purest motivation and means has, thus, failed and led to the triumphant re-arrival of capitalism in these countries which has belied the expectation of die-hard communists and sent them to despair.
That Marxism has in its theoretical aspects contributed largely to the development of welfare economics in otherwise capitalist countries like Britain and a host of other nations cannot be denied but, in so far as its application in revolutionary terms is concerned, it has been the most violent system that had reduced a third of the counties of the world to despotic, barbaric regimes that sent whole populations to living the lives of slaves at the point of the barrel of the gun that snuffed their lives out whenever the slightest dissent to the official governmental line was voiced. Surely, such a system is better dead and gone, although, witnessing the persisting trends of capitalistic exploitation the world over, it remains to be seen whether the ghost of Marxism is yet to resurrect in the form of a newer earthly incarnation in the future.
Sugata Bose Kanai Lal Biswas Why call Gandhiji's followers stooges? Why be intolerant and disrespectful of others?
Kanai Lal Biswas Why call Gandhiji's followers stooges? Why be intolerant and disrespectful of others?Sugata Bose Subhrajyoti Bhowmick Different phases of a single socioeconomic historical movement. Socialism precedes communism and communism succeeds it.
[ Brenda Arnold Mattox One of several friends who responded to your list of the most evil men from the last century, most of whom could not bear seeing Truman and Churchill on that list ask me to ask you what do you think of Trump. I said I would do so and gave strong reasons why those two guys are there explaining the list did not come from a European or an American. ]
Sugata Bose Brenda Arnold Mattox My view of Trump is that he is the most uniformed President that the United States of America has ever seen and is a dangerous proposition for the world if elected yet again. His refusal to abide by basic rationality that would deem environmental issues the fundamental feature of governmental action of the day threatens the human species with extinction in the not so distant date from now. To be the President of the most powerful nation in the history of humanity with the most stupendous technology available at his hands to destroy the world multiple times over and to be so ignorant of the workings of the world beyond what Fox News and Twitter provide him, and to act on impulse thereof and on the basis of preconceptions and ill-formed ideas, makes him potentially very dangerous for the world, and America in her Covid 19 proliferation is already witnessing one such effect. That America chose to elect one such President, one may hope, will in future rectified national course be deemed an aberration. However, if this populism in politics continues and more of the Trump-type surface in the American presidential arena in the future, then Mr.Trump will have inaugurated a new era of regressive politics in the land of erstwhile progressive political thinking. That then will, with retrospective effect, cast Mr. Trump as a bigger culprit than may thus far be a charge reasonably levelled against him. However, I would not characterise Mr. Trump as fundamentally evil, for in his global executive action, as yet, he has not led America to destroy nations wholesale as some of his predecessors have done. Trump remains in my opinion more dangerous on account of his stupendous ignorance than evil on account of machinations against weaker nations. I would, thus, not allow him the privilege of standing in line with the ten listed more notorious evil men of the century whose dastardly deeds far outstrip any action of Trump in terms of harm caused to humanity.
[ John Embrey As an American. My countries intellectuals are very fond of quoting the high body count of communism. They are also completely silent on the murder and exploitation of Capitalism. Just look at King Leopold of Belgium who killed 10 million Africans. As an Indian I am sure you are aware of British engineered famines that some say killed 56 million Indians. I can not defend Mao or Stalin. Still in polls taken most Russians 60% feel that they were better off under the Soviet Union then the present capitalistic system they live under today. One more thing to take into account. Money was taking from the Soviet Union and directed to it’s satellite states. The reverse is true with Capitalism. The Capitalist never passed up an opportunity to exploit any emerging nation and drain its resources for person profit. I have come to the conclusion that the right people loss the Cold War. But, the wrong people won it. ]
Sugata Bose John Embrey Yes, of course, there is a great deal of truth in what you say. We, Indians, are keenly aware of the depredation of our motherland in every sense by the British, the ravages of capitalism in the world, the destruction of life all over by colonialism, imperialism and malevolent nationalism which have exposed the hollowness of the claims of the democratic powers in regard to freedom, human rights and their ilk. Democracy for the powerful states like USA and UK means democracy within and autocracy without. The wanton destruction of life and resource of the weaker nations has gone on with impunity in the name of the establishment of civilisation by the British during their colonial days and the establishment of democracy by America thereafter till date. Hence, brutality is on all sides and one may only conclude that democracy in its purest form, if applied, is a better system than communism in any of its applied modes or even in its purest theoretical proposition.
Sugata Bose Sudip Chand Sure enough. But the fault is mine, dear friend, and not yours. Neither are you of mediocre intellect. That is your humility. But I will, for certain, try and write in as simple a diction as I can, for the purpose of writing is communication with one's readers and if I fail to do so, then I will have failed as a writer which surely I do not aspire for. Nonetheless, do bear with me and keep reading even as I keep at the task of simplifying my style to an extent.
Sugata Bose স্বপন চৌধুরী Excuse me Monsieur, I am no fellow in the sense you make of me. I happen to be a respectable gentleman just like you and deserve a more respectful address even by way of clarification of my identity to an errant one. Surely, you do not exhibit such irreverence to the real revered ones, or do you, perhaps? I expect to be shown as much courtesy and respectfulness as civil society enjoins upon each one of us to show each other by way either of reference or address.
স্বপন চৌধুরী Excuse me Monsieur, I am no fellow in the sense you make of me. I happen to be a respectable gentleman just like you and deserve a more respectful address even by way of clarification of my identity to an errant one. Surely, you do not exhibit such irreverence to the real revered ones, or do you, perhaps? I expect to be shown as much courtesy and respectfulness as civil society enjoins upon each one of us to show each other by way either of reference or address.Sugata Bose Rat Sen Your presumption stupefies me and makes me wonder about the level of inaccurate reading of a situation or circumstance or, as in my case, an identification of personality, that abounds in a society gone berserk with false assumptions and arrogant assertions thereof. Before daring to command me what to do, you ought to restrain your articulate gibberish both from the standpoint of factual correctness as well as by the abiding norms of civility. God bless you in your future forays with others thus !
Rat Sen Your presumption stupefies me and makes me wonder about the level of inaccurate reading of a situation or circumstance or, as in my case, an identification of personality, that abounds in a society gone berserk with false assumptions and arrogant assertions thereof. Before daring to command me what to do, you ought to restrain your articulate gibberish both from the standpoint of factual correctness as well as by the abiding norms of civility. God bless you in your future forays with others thus !Sugata Bose Rat Sen You are incorrigible it seems. Instead of standing corrected and apologetic thereof, you dare yet throw a verbal challenge to me?
Rat Sen You are incorrigible it seems. Instead of standing corrected and apologetic thereof, you dare yet throw a verbal challenge to me?Sugata Bose Rat Sen Now you are showing your true colours. Did you not suggest that I am a relative of Netaji? And did you not then peremptorily proceed to order me in a brusque manner to 'Do it now.' And now you dare call me mad? Are you exhibiting even a modicum of civility to a fellow human being on whom you first aver false identity and then proceed to command him what to do?
Rat Sen Now you are showing your true colours. Did you not suggest that I am a relative of Netaji? And did you not then peremptorily proceed to order me in a brusque manner to 'Do it now.' And now you dare call me mad? Are you exhibiting even a modicum of civility to a fellow human being on whom you first aver false identity and then proceed to command him what to do?Sugata Bose Rat Sen Do you not possess fundamental clarity of conception that my name also is Sugata Bose which, however, does not change my personality and identity and transform me to the grand nephew of Netaji who happens to be my namesake?
Rat Sen Do you not possess fundamental clarity of conception that my name also is Sugata Bose which, however, does not change my personality and identity and transform me to the grand nephew of Netaji who happens to be my namesake?Sugata Bose Rat Sen Do not command and then bless. If you fail to understand what I suggest, then I must be permitted the necessary indiscretion in calling you insensitive to a pronounced degree.
Rat Sen Do not command and then bless. If you fail to understand what I suggest, then I must be permitted the necessary indiscretion in calling you insensitive to a pronounced degree.Sugata Bose Rat Sen It is pointless deliberating with someone who simply isn't sensitive to a self-indiscretion and prefers instead to fruitlessly engage in verbal foray. A fair amount of introspection and humility by way of self-rectification would have done the subject a world of good.
Rat Sen It is pointless deliberating with someone who simply isn't sensitive to a self-indiscretion and prefers instead to fruitlessly engage in verbal foray. A fair amount of introspection and humility by way of self-rectification would have done the subject a world of good.Sugata Bose Rat Sen Here at last we agree but rather ugly has been the dual dialogue before consensus could be reached.
Rat Sen Here at last we agree but rather ugly has been the dual dialogue before consensus could be reached.Sugata Bose Rat Sen And here you will be for good expelled from this group for your exhibited audacity. God bless you !
Rat Sen And here you will be for good expelled from this group for your exhibited audacity. God bless you !Sugata Bose Boudhayan Dutta Looking for the vaccine for this vicious virus lest it should violate my vanity through vicinity of its virulent venom.
Sugata Bose Madhusudan Pal 'Honest whipping' -- I liked the gerund used, having encountered it for the first time. It gives us the rationale of armed revolution as well where honest aggression counters dishonest occupation of another's motherland.
Sugata Bose @Swami Ekarthananda Puri : They are part of the spitfire section of the Air Force. So, they target-shoot and dart off, knowing full well that the anti-aircraft volley that is coming will ground them.
Sugata Bose Saswati Sinha In which case better be careful. For now Corona will compete with consumption. Kidding.
Sugata Bose Madhusudan Pal So it was and Britain will have to pay for it. The long arm of cosmic law will have its retribution in its own sweet time.
Sugata Bose Madhusudan Pal Remember Swamiji's prophecy of the utter destruction of Britain and Europe at the hands of the Chinese.
Sugata Bose Debashish Maitra Not really. It was an assumption thus erroneously made, perhaps, because Swamiji said, "It shall not be a millenium before it comes to pass." That way, in a radically different view, the millenium has already struck, 2000 CE.
Sugata Bose Madhusudan Pal Which is why I said that the Jews might take offence at the Holocaust having been relegated to second position in terms of massacre caused by an aggressive force against a nation or a race. After all 6 million Jews then accounted for (60/66)×100 = 90% of their then global population whose life was snuffed out.
Sugata Bose @Andy Sen : The statement is amply clear. For verification look up the Basumati archives and draw your own conclusion. Here, in Satyaranjan Bakshi's words, Netaji's alleged marriage has been repudiated by Sarat Chandra Bose as a hatched conspiracy by Netaji's adversaries to malign his stainless reputation as a continent bachelor with pronounced spiritual leanings.
@Andy Sen : The statement is amply clear. For verification look up the Basumati archives and draw your own conclusion. Here, in Satyaranjan Bakshi's words, Netaji's alleged marriage has been repudiated by Sarat Chandra Bose as a hatched conspiracy by Netaji's adversaries to malign his stainless reputation as a continent bachelor with pronounced spiritual leanings.Sugata Bose উজ্জ্বল মান্না তবু প্রশ্ন রইল আমার -- ব্যক্তি স্বামীজী তোমার আদর্শ না কি তাঁর ভাবাদর্শ তোমার আদর্শ? Are you in pursuit of personality or principle?
উজ্জ্বল মান্না তবু প্রশ্ন রইল আমার -- ব্যক্তি স্বামীজী তোমার আদর্শ না কি তাঁর ভাবাদর্শ তোমার আদর্শ? Are you in pursuit of personality or principle?Sugata Bose উজ্জ্বল মান্না না, মূল উত্তর এখনও পেলাম না । যাক গে। সে তো তাত্ত্বিক আলোচনা শুধু । অতএব, ক্ষান্ত হলাম এই প্রশ্নোত্তরের শৃঙ্খলা হতে । ভাল থেকো ।
উজ্জ্বল মান্না না, মূল উত্তর এখনও পেলাম না । যাক গে। সে তো তাত্ত্বিক আলোচনা শুধু । অতএব, ক্ষান্ত হলাম এই প্রশ্নোত্তরের শৃঙ্খলা হতে । ভাল থেকো ।Sugata Bose Iron discipline with absolute obedience of authority right now in the observance of the medical directives being sounded. Netaji always wanted martial discipline in the polity and worked towards achieving it, a pertinent instance of which may be recalled in his Haripura Presidential Address which incurred the ire of the Mahatma so unfortunately for India and her fate thereafter. We can now pay our respects to the hero by gathering ourselves together in giving shape to his dreamt of national discipline at this critical hour of our terrestrial existence.
Iron discipline with absolute obedience of authority right now in the observance of the medical directives being sounded. Netaji always wanted martial discipline in the polity and worked towards achieving it, a pertinent instance of which may be recalled in his Haripura Presidential Address which incurred the ire of the Mahatma so unfortunately for India and her fate thereafter. We can now pay our respects to the hero by gathering ourselves together in giving shape to his dreamt of national discipline at this critical hour of our terrestrial existence.Sugata Bose Netaji had earnestly prepared us for the World War II but had fallen foul with the Mahatma. So, he was forced to leave the shores of India to seek foreign help for his war of liberation. Thus, in a way, India had joined the Axis Powers in this brutal war that waged across the world, and this I say on account of Netaji's having waged his war under the official sanction of The Provisional Government of Free India which had been recognised by no less than eleven nations including Japan, Germany, Italy and the Soviet Union as documents have later revealed. That Netaji could do what he did thus was on account of the martial discipline that he could enforce on all his associates and comrades both in the military ranks of the INA and in the civil ranks of the IIL. It is this cohesion and consolidation of power used benevolently for the mission of the motherland's liberation that gave Netaji superb success in his military missions across the Arakaan and Imphal-Kohima. Today, our national and provincial leadership must absorb the lessons of leadership in trying times that Netaji has left behind for them as his glorious legacy and, in so doing, prove that they are worthy of the trust reposed in them by the people of India. In a like manner, thirty million East Asians of Indian origin had laid their everything down -- men, money, materials -- at the altar of the motherland's freedom to help us unshackle ourselves from colonial chains. Here, we, the people of India, must play our part and, like the Germans today are actively engaging in fighting the Coronavirus most effectively, so also must we adhere to tremendous self-discipline, energetic participation in following the official health directives, and, inspired by the fiery patriotism whose embodiment was Netaji, we must muster our best resources of matter and mind to combat this killer virus. May Netaji inspire us all !
Netaji had earnestly prepared us for the World War II but had fallen foul with the Mahatma. So, he was forced to leave the shores of India to seek foreign help for his war of liberation. Thus, in a way, India had joined the Axis Powers in this brutal war that waged across the world, and this I say on account of Netaji's having waged his war under the official sanction of The Provisional Government of Free India which had been recognised by no less than eleven nations including Japan, Germany, Italy and the Soviet Union as documents have later revealed. That Netaji could do what he did thus was on account of the martial discipline that he could enforce on all his associates and comrades both in the military ranks of the INA and in the civil ranks of the IIL. It is this cohesion and consolidation of power used benevolently for the mission of the motherland's liberation that gave Netaji superb success in his military missions across the Arakaan and Imphal-Kohima. Today, our national and provincial leadership must absorb the lessons of leadership in trying times that Netaji has left behind for them as his glorious legacy and, in so doing, prove that they are worthy of the trust reposed in them by the people of India. In a like manner, thirty million East Asians of Indian origin had laid their everything down -- men, money, materials -- at the altar of the motherland's freedom to help us unshackle ourselves from colonial chains. Here, we, the people of India, must play our part and, like the Germans today are actively engaging in fighting the Coronavirus most effectively, so also must we adhere to tremendous self-discipline, energetic participation in following the official health directives, and, inspired by the fiery patriotism whose embodiment was Netaji, we must muster our best resources of matter and mind to combat this killer virus. May Netaji inspire us all !Sugata Bose Shyamadas Mukherjee দেখা দিন ! আপনি তো আধাঁরে অবগুণ্ঠিত । সচিত্র রূপটি নেহারি নয়ন করি তৃপ্ত ।
Shyamadas Mukherjee দেখা দিন ! আপনি তো আধাঁরে অবগুণ্ঠিত । সচিত্র রূপটি নেহারি নয়ন করি তৃপ্ত ।অদৃশ্য বন্ধু মম,
এ কোন রহস্যসম,
রইলেন আড়ালে ।
সম্যক দরশিলে,
আলাপ হইত মিলে,
সুযোগ হারালে ।
Sugata Bose Diganta Sengupta Ever there by you. I shall always shower this affection on such a worthy one as you are whose dawn awakes to the trumpet march of the INA and dusk sinks not with sinking hopes but with the vigorous advent of the eve that is the precursor to great nightly deeds for the ushering in of the morrow's morn.
Diganta Sengupta Ever there by you. I shall always shower this affection on such a worthy one as you are whose dawn awakes to the trumpet march of the INA and dusk sinks not with sinking hopes but with the vigorous advent of the eve that is the precursor to great nightly deeds for the ushering in of the morrow's morn.Sugata Bose Uttam Mukherjee I agree with you. When I was an adolescent I used to wonder how the genie of population growth was to be contained in India to allow for India's socioeconomic security. I came to a similar conclusion but would remain baffled by the power of the idea to change the world. Today, at this relatively advanced age, conceptions have been largely clarified and I can clearly see the transformation in human consciousness that education brings in its wake. The developed world has largely been able to address this issue by its 99% literacy programme and so will we be able to do the same if we pursue the same policy of universal basic and then quality education.
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