Sunday 3 November 2019

FACEBOOK COMMENTS ... 2


Sugata Bose That seems to be the reality indeed and is, perhaps, in keeping with the overall political agenda that fuels the conversion drive.

Sugata Bose Brilliant explanation, clear, concise and simple. Only a slight editing has to be done to rectify the typographical error where 'born' has been printed instead of 'burn'.

Sugata Bose Dhanyabaad. Amar o mone hoyechhilo tai kintu Bangla abhidhaanti keetdashta hoye poray, sathhik banaanti aar dekhe uthhtey parini. Apnar kalyaney ushuddha shabdaproyoger truti hotey mukto holam.

Sugata Bose How will you work for peace when you cannot even answer contentious questions?

Sugata Bose That's how it works here. We need to celebrate everything. After all, everything is divine, every act, every thought. So, to make a celebration out of this would be most meet for those who care not for DANTADEV and who, in consequence, avenges the neglect in due course by banishing the teeth from their homes.

Sugata Bose Goutam Bose Read daily. That itself will inspire generations to come, I say.

Sugata Bose Goutam Bose And the first future generation is the next generation.

Sugata Bose Goutam Bose But the concern is right and I, too, feel it. Hence, I zealously keep on writing in the hope of awakening public consciousness about the exigencies of the times and, perhaps, of the times to come.

Sugata Bose Goutam Bose We can do a lot if we well combine, for individual effort often dissipates energy in the absence of a sufficient focus, sustained and enduring.

Sugata Bose Set yourself to learning it up by heart and then write in letters of gold the essence of the message in your being before translating it into life-giving activity that will conduce to the welfare of all. [w.r.t. Swamiji's Svadesh Mantra -- directive to Diganta Sengupta]

Sugata Bose But his attire in line with what Swamiji here exhorts the future workers for the redemption of the motherland to don? I was wondering about that. Could it have been inspired by Swamiji's clarion call for the same? Or, perhaps, it was in prophetic fulfilment of what Swamiji had foreseen, in which case, Gandhiji will have to be deemed the anointed one of the God of India's destiny.

M or Master Mahashay or Mahendranath Gupta had said that Thakur (Sri Ramakrishna) had possessed the spirit of Gandhiji and, thus, Mahatmaji was thus able to do his monumental work of national regeneration. Swami Nirmalanandaji was caustically critical of Gandhiji's work for India's liberation with his professed non-violent means and so was Swami Ashokananda in many respects. Sister Nivedita had condemned such passive methods of Gandhiji, I gather, and if my memory serves me right, when Gandhiji had once met her in Kolkata on a visit to India.

Overall, however, in those days there was a wide acceptance of Gandhiji's work for India's all-round welfare and political liberation among the foremost monks of the Ramakrishna Order and there was a great admiration for the sterling sacrifice and renunciation of the Mahatma as well. That he did compromise India's cause of freedom at every bend and turn and inadvertently helped the British to sustain their hold on India is clear to all now but in those days there was, barring criticism from contrary revolutionary movements for freedom, a phenomenal acceptance of Gandhiji as the supreme political leader across the length and breadth of the country.

About Gandhiji having read or not having read by 1915 Swamiji's Complete Works, I am unaware of the details, but I do know for certain that Gandhiji himself has avowedly admitted that he had gone through the works of Vivekananda thoroughly and his love for the motherland had thus multiplied a thousandfold.

Sugata Bose @Swami Ekarthananda (Yatiraj Puri) : Brilliant analysis and understanding of the segmented nature of the nation state and, hence, it being representative of the sect in political terms. I have learnt a new thing today. This idea had not in this manner emphatically hit me as it has done now after reading your perceptive observation. Hence, I acknowledge my debt to you in this regard. Verily, I must say, with every post of yours, your clarity of conception is striking me as unusually radiant and it is sending home many a message to interested individuals who wish to read and reflect on these significant issues. My regard and reverence to you, Maharaj, as I remain ever-expectant of fresher lines of thinking emanating from your fertile mind, courtesy the trinity that you so adore.

Sugata Bose How do you call organisms humans? first explain. The answer would be evident then.

Sugata Bose Identify the others as well and then ask yourself the questions I have raised.

Sugata Bose Sharmistha Chatterjee Study more and a deeper knowledge shall result one day. Instant reception of data will remain merely information and will fail to awaken deeper understanding of the contentious national issues alluded to here.

Sugata Bose Maharaj, please edit the word 'born' to 'burn'. It is a typographical error, I understand.

Sugata Bose Brilliant explanation, clear, concise and simple. Only a slight editing has to be done to rectify the typographical error where 'born' has been printed instead of 'burn'. [and therefore they born their body after death.

Sugata Bose Debaprasad Bhattacharya No, no, I wrote the piece just like that. It also helped to clarify my position, inadequately, though, as I have stated. Thank you for responding with a comment and triggering my thinking thereby. Please continue to do so, for you are such a thorough and a perceptive reader. It greatly inspires me to carry on with my writing enterprise.

Sugata Bose Deepankar Bagchi Your service at your station in life, your labour of love for the upholding of the Sanatan Dharma, your worship, your prayer, your austerity, your realisation, all these offer at the altar of the motherland and keep strengthening her undying spiritual tradition of seminal glory.

Sugata Bose Thank you. I had made an initial slip of memory and error thereof before I edited the same post on my profile wall but made another error thereafter in failing to do the same on my page here which, courtesy your discerning reading and pointing out of the said error to me, I have now been absolved of the same. Thank you once again and my good wishes for your sustained well-being.

Sugata Bose Of course they do but in what mode or manner is as yet unknown to man for the laws of psychology have not been possible to quantify in any manner as yet as would allow an accurate inference to any appreciable degree.

Sugata Bose Riya Bhattacharya Read on. You are oversimplifying things as is the wont of humanity to do with the complex mechanisms of Maya.

Sugata Bose Swapan Kumar Ghosh Apurba apnar rachanashaili, suchintita apnar baktabya, anudhabanjogyo. Sadhu !

Sugata Bose Apnar sathey sampurna ekmot ami. Brahmacharyer abhabey deshta utsanne gelo, bolechhilen Swamiji. Tai hoyechhe ey desher dasha.

Sugata Bose The essay is not over. It will be significantly expanded over due course of time. At leisure read the whole of it.

Sugata Bose The essay now stands fulfilled.

Sugata Bose Debaprasad Bhattacharya The problem, though, is this. What sort of a reaction must it be for the householder in collective action against evil? Non-violence or violence? Passive resistance or armed insurrection?

Sugata Bose Superb, Maharaj. What humour even in plain articulation of truth ! Spice of the hour for me.

Sugata Bose Right you are. The signs are alarming, indeed.

Sugata Bose Live for her, dear friend, and fulfil her afresh through your own divine karma.

Sugata Bose You will never be able to appreciate what I am attempting to say in these posts. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof !

Sugata Bose Comal Mahadevan Amrtheswaran The difference I am well aware of but the pertinent point is to note that we have failed to propagate our dharma well throughout the world by failing to observe well-defined days as well for the mass celebration of these seminal spiritual personages of our motherland over and above observing their birth-tithis as per the almanac and its prescriptive stellar positional requirements for the ritual ceremonies involved.

Sugata Bose DeMe Phobia This theory from the Notovich angle has been debunked by Swami Vivekananda.

Sugata Bose Cdt Arghya Biswas You have typically missed the point. View all earlier posts in this regard and cogitate deep on their import.

Sugata Bose Cdt Arghya Biswas But Christmas scores its universal appeal thus, through fixing birth-date on the calendar. It is expedient that we also do likewise for the propagation of Hinduism. Birth-tithi may yet be observed on the due dates.

Sugata Bose Cdt Arghya Biswas Sure, I'll simplify, for communication is the key, not linguistic embellishment.

Sugata Bose Cdt Arghya Biswas Inertia hath its hold, you see. Hang on and you'll see simplicity surface.

Sugata Bose Diganta Sengupta You did not know. You had to look it up.

Sugata Bose Diganta Sengupta You are missing the point. Tell me when these birthdays will be 50 years hence. But you know 50 years hence Christmas falls on 25 December.

Sugata Bose Diganta Sengupta So, there you see what I mean, assuming you have now understood it.

Sugata Bose Diganta Sengupta Consider well, cogitate deep on the import of what I say.

Sugata Bose Oh, you and your supercilious talk !

Sugata Bose Swapan Kumar Ghosh You have missed the point of this elaborate discussion spanning several earlier and latter posts.

Sugata Bose আজাদহিন্দ মুক্তিমঞ্চ Uporokto athaba nimnokto athaba prithak ukta rachanati paathh kore bhrantimukto hon.

Sugata Bose Comal Mahadevan Amrtheswaran Oh, when will you understand the sarcasm in the statement of the post, alas, when?

Sugata Bose Debaprasad Bhattacharya You did not get my point quite. Who is preventing the celebration of the birth-tithis? Let public celebration of these seminal spiritual personages be also be for the wider diffusion of their message across the globe, for the better preparedness for the celebration of the day in advance, for the greater awareness of these beings and the days of mass observance in their memory. This is absolutely vital for the propagation of the dharma in an age when communication is the key and Christians with their fixed day of mass celebration are scoring a free hit over others to their advantage. GOI declared Swamiji's birthday on the 12th January as the National Youth Day and it has ever since worked wonders in upholding his person in mass memory. So must we fix the original birthdays of Sri Ramakrishna and the like for public celebration even as we then follow it up with our ritual celebration of their birth-tithis as per prescriptions of the almanac. Where lies the contradiction in this timely adjustment for the propagation of the faith?

Sugata Bose Debaprasad Bhattacharya RKM has already been celebrating Swamiji's birthday on 12 Jan following the declaration of it by GOI as the National Youth Day. Hence, I do not see how or why they cannot fix a public celebration day for each of the personalities of the Holy Trinity in addition to the observance of their ritual birth-tithis. At any rate, by public celebration is not being meant celebration by the public but rather celebration for the public.

Sugata Bose Courtesy, the aberration that was later Buddhism and Jainism from inception.

Sugata Bose 'Ye cannot serve God and Mammon together.' -- I guess these were the words in the English translation.

Sugata Bose Sharmistha Chatterjee So nice of you to shower accolades thus.

Sugata Bose Brahman behind Maya. 'Aditya varnam / varnung tamasa paraastaat.'

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