FACEBOOK COMMENTS FROM DIFFERENT PROFILES ... 7
Sugata Bose Joydeep Das Perfect. We have even been told by these uninformed, fanatical followers of Netaji that he had misread Gandhiji and his motivations which, in their opinion, formed on the basis of dubious information source and more dubious inference thereof, were fundamentally geared to ousting him (Netaji) from power at the behest of the British, for after all, Gandhiji was a British agent. Netaji's admiration of Gandhiji, in the opinion of these wise ones, was either out of political exigency or on account of a gross misjudgement of Gandhiji's mischievous motivations, a mistake he had made on account of his own noble nature which was of the trusting type and shirked from such ignoble analysis of the Mahatma's motivations.
Sugata Bose Shubhranshu Mohan Banerji This, unfortunately, is the trend with even educated individuals who are swayed by political persuasions and shallow reading, as you have rightly pointed out, and throw off all caution to the winds when they pass peremptory judgement on seminal personalities of the age. This is the rabble of the day and the rubble thereof of our civilisation of the recent past when the guillotine hangs over these titanic figures of our times and the executioner carries out the commandment of the cacophonous crowd.
Sugata Bose Sumit Mukerji Criticise to your heart's content but criticise with civility and on an informed basis. Unfortunately, the trend is otherwise.
Sugata Bose Swami Ekarthananda Puri But to criticise Sri Raamchandra on the basis of fairness, should one indulge in it, one ought to be well-versed in the Ramaayan. What do you say? That is the purport of the post.
Sugata Bose Swami Ekarthananda Puri The question is not of worship. You are totally missing the point, far less the logic. Daily diatribe, vituperation and calumny cast on Gandhiji and Pandit Nehru have become endemic in our country as evident online, that is. This is the moot point. Criticism must be based on reasonable analysis and not on a rampant uniformed basis that delights in casting character aspersions out of lowly character compulsions. And why are you conflating issues? Can you not stick to the point and follow lines of rational analysis and argument?
Sugata Bose Swami Ekarthananda Puri Your imagination is extraordinarily off the mark. Better that they be limited to your own domain, that is, to the realm of your own creative pursuits rather than in forming flawed understanding about others and passing peremptory judgement thereof.
Sugata Bose Tapan Bhattacharya Netaji was a bigger chain smoker. Would that disqualify him too from being what he is as patriot perennial?
Sugata Bose Brenda Arnold Mattox When Swami Vivekananda returned to India after his triumphant first visit to the West, he was greeted by his brother disciples, all of whom were eagerly waiting to meet him, so much did they love him. But Swamiji went straight to Swami Brahmananda, the spiritual son of his Master, Sri Ramakrishna, and uttering the words, "Guruputreshu Guruvat," [ the Preceptor's son is the Preceptor himself ] bent low to touch his feet. Instantly, Swami Brahmananda returned the compliment, uttering, "Jyeshthha bhraataa Pitirvat," [ the elder brother is the Father himself ] and bent low to touch Swamiji's feet. Such was the bond of love between these two children of light of the Master.
P.S. I took the liberty to translate the Sanskrit words to English for you, in case you are not conversant with the language and failed to get to the spirit of the text.
Sugata Bose Omaditya Swarnendu Biswas Do not generalise and spoil the spirit that in poetic terms thus comes out. Philosophical generalisation beyond a point is dry and devoid of artistic delight. Let the words flow with their music and you recline to listen to their lilting melody, and the sweetness of relation between these two titanic spirits of the Age. Between the definition and the delight there is an oceanic gap and that is the space filled by love transcendent that lies at the interface of the twain. Swamiji says that the Gopi prem [love of the milkmaids for Krishna] is the junction of the dual and the non-dual planes of consciousness and the one approximation of the seemingly impossible harmony of the twain. But all this analysis robs love of its savour and renders it sterile in prosaic representation. So, must you indulge in it, my friend?
What a brilliant verbal disposition! You have been a man possessed by the higher spirit today. I have rarely had such an articulate experience from the standpoint of a listener in my life. This was simply breathtaking.
Sugata Bose Steven M. Johnson Sri Ramakrishna said these words addressing Manomohan Mitra, his householder devotee and disciple. Manomohan Mitra was also Swami Brahmananda's brother-in-law and was instrumental in bringing the latter, after his marriage to his (Manomohan's) sister, to Sri Ramakrishna by way of the traditional Hindu practice of seeking for the newly weds the blessings of the Guru. Thus it was that the fateful meeting took place that altered the course of Rakhalchandra Ghosh's life and with it the life of the future Ramakrishna Order, as yet brewing in the distillery of the Mother-heart.
Sugata Bose গোবিন্দ সেবক দাস The whole material universe of desires and delusive dreams is the vast body of superstition. As is ever the case, you, like most others, failed to get the drift of the post and jumped to hazardous, hasty conclusion about its import. Feel like drowning my writing in Neptunian waters and shaking myself free of the fetters of these hyper-wise, supercilious comments.
Sugata Bose গোবিন্দ সেবক দাস A fool recognises another one and I am happy to have found company in you. As regards the usage of the term 'superstition', it seems you are innocent of the nuances of the English language. Hence, your misapprehension of its widest scope of usage. You have a narrow understanding of the term, hence your predicament. Anyhow, as for your formation of opinion of others, it is in line with the current trends of common corruption where men jump to conclusions about issues and personalities at the drop of a hat. It is common knowledge that renunciation consists in complete self-abnegation brought about in the bound soul by its abstinence from carnal connection and material contamination of all sorts till the embodied soul so refines that in the dropping off of its material cover, the Self reveals in all its majesty. I am happy to know that you understand this basic concept of renunciation. But my linguistic horror ensues from the fact that men like you can be so utterly innocent of the usages and nuances of a language, no doubt alien to you, but that they can also be so intellectually impoverished as to refuse to comprehend the widest meaning of a term even when explained. This, of course, stems from the fundamental conservative feature of the human brain which does not allow for added information and adjustment thereof within it easily and induces men to let their thoughts run along the same old rut as they are organically predisposed to. I would, therefore, exhort you to minimise your preconceptions and maximise your capacity for further learning before hazarding corrosive comments about others. May Sri Ramakrishna keep you in good humour and health !
Sugata Bose Ranjana Sircar The post is correct or the comment made in contradiction of it by a hasty critic is correct? I was just wondering.
Sugata Bose Risshe R Keswwani Ours is called 'dharma' but we have converted it into a vast conglomeration of religions under the banner of what goes today by the name of Hinduism. This is so because we do not practise the correct code of spiritual conduct and ethical living that emanates from the Sanatan Dharma. Ours is mere lip-service practice of Hinduism and not the sincere adherence to the dharma as would qualify us truly to be termed practitioners of the Sanatan Dharma. Hence, on paper it is Sanatan Dharma, true, but in practice a rather bad degeneration of it as sort of a ritualistic religious observance with not much of high-souled observance of the ethical codes of living as is the core content of our Sanatan Dharma.
Sugata Bose Shaon Malik No. The Sanatan Dharma is the vast body of transcendental Truth and will triumph over the vicissitudes of time as it has ever done from time immemorial. You are young. Study Vivekananda and grow up to defend the dharma through its proper propagation.
Sugata Bose Risshe R Keswwani The Bengalees are yet to truly awaken to the truth of Vivekananda. Right now they are busy with Tagore.
Sugata Bose Risshe R Keswwani Yes. Vivekananda had anticipated it. He has rued this love of sensual pleasure so rampant in the then Bengal. The tradition continues to the day.
Sugata Bose Risshe R Keswwani Yes, that ought to be the harmonic right attitude but such a harmony is hard to come by as these two seminal greats were in many respects poles apart ideologically while they approximated each other in many other directions, although, with widely distinctive differences still.
Sugata Bose Shaon Malik Netaji is in your heart and soul and in the as yet unfulfilled national dream of the resurrection of the motherland, her culture and her illuminating influence over the rest of the world.
@Chinmoy Bose : The information about Swami Madhavananda is erroneous. Hence, this post is not being approved. Please verify facts before posting about important personalities for they are going to spread misinformation otherwise which is wholly unwarranted.
Sugata Bose Partha Pratim Adhikary By the absolute practice of brahmacharya (continence), by the study of Swami Vivekananda for the whole of one's life, by reflection on the lives of Sri Ramakrishna and Swami Vivekananda, and by soulful chanting of the holy name, 'Ramakrishna'.
Sugata Bose Bhaskar Sen Sharma In principle you are right but this reply, you can see, is specific to the enquirer, Partha Pratim Adhikary. At any rate, Swamiji has said that if this nation has to rise, it will have to rally round the name of Ramakrishna. So, I guess, there is not much harm in suggesting the holy name of Sri Ramakrishna for chanting to someone who is as yet uninitiated and wishes perfection in life, for I do not know who else in this modern age can approach remotely even the shadow of 'the latest and most perfection incarnation of God,' to quote Swamiji again. However, I can understand your point in line with classical thinking of the Sanatan Dharma and fully appreciate and endorse it -- if my endorsement counts for anything at all -- and am not being dogmatic about my suggestion by implying in any way that the name 'Ramakrishna' is the one holy name of the Lord that can deliver the bound soul unto freedom, for the Lord has unnumbered names of equal spiritual significance and suited to specific temperaments of aspirants, each of which has the potency, if chanted to perfection and meditated upon, to lead to perfection itself. Thus did the sages of yore pronounce the great truth, 'एकम सत विप्रा बहुधा वदन्ति,' and thus did the Lord in the Geeta Himself give utterance to the words, 'ये यथा मां प्रपद्यन्ते तांस्तथैव भजाम्यहम् | मम वर्त्मानुवर्तन्ते मनुष्या: पार्थ सर्वश: ||'
Sugata Bose Subrata Sengupta Actually, this post is a slightly inaccurate derivation of what revolutionary Hemchandra Ghosh is reported to have said in this regard. His words were as follows : "How much have the sannyasis of the Ramakrishna Mission understood Swamiji? It is the revolutionaries who had understood Swamiji best." So, you are right from the strict terminological aspect. The revolutionaries were the political followers of Swamiji and not his spiritual disciples as such. But I took the term 'disciple' and nuanced its meaning to give it a wider connotation in linguistic terms of an expansive order and included within its ambit discipleship in spirit at a distance. Hence, you may call them what you deem them to be in strictest linguistic terminology but I chose to highlight Hemchandra's conception of being pupil to this master preceptor when I called the revolutionaries disciples of Swamiji.
Sugata Bose Sushanta Banerjee What a confluence of the 'choice and masters spirits of the Age' (courtesy, Shakespeare) !
Sugata Bose Goutam Bose Please read the expanded version of the essay, edited to reasonable requirement.
Did Netaji become Gumnami Baba?
That way even the army, apart from the disbanded INA soldiers, switched loyalty to the new dispensation, that of independent India. They even now with great pride call on their heroic exploits in the different battle fronts across the world as the then British Indian army. These are the historical heresies which must be admitted as part of the structural adjustment during a great political transformation and more or less affect in some measure almost all such changeovers wherever they may be. However, in our case the denial of more than legitimate rights to the INA personnel -- no doubt on account of international pressures and the inability of our toothless, comprising leaders to combat such pressures -- was a deceitful, dastardly act. What you have highlighted is indeed true and it is a pity that the patriots were made to perish and the perfidious ones to prosper despite they having been actively, albeit professionally, complicit in the prolonging of British rule in India. Even now the Government of India's stance is purely pretentious and nothing is being done to perpetuate the memory of the martyrs to freedom. Alas, one can only by way of explanation say that in a country of copious cowards this is but the calamitous consequence of a compromised and conditional freedom of sorts.
Indeed, it is our duty to highlight these issues and to keep highlighting them for people's education but one wonders whether it would be in the country's best interests to pass on the sins of the past, that is, the erstwhile Indian army's role in pinning India's independence hopes down on to independent India's army even if the latter by way of a sense of historical belonging to heroic heritage, if even under the British, celebrate verbally sometimes to such nostalgic effect before the intriguing camera of television channels like the 'Republic' and, so, appear to gullibly give an impression of pride in reverse roots which their post-independence loyalty to the Republic of India surely counters. Hence, one is a little hesitant to stir up these issues online and desists from raking them up from the dead bones of our historical past. We must rather collectively endeavour to paint positively the thus far suppressed revolutionary movement for freedom and let these inferential derivatives naturally fall into their places before an awakening polity. God bless you for your perceptive observations, and keep on enlightening us thus.
Reconciliation is only possible in our mind in the acceptance of change as the permanent feature of this phenomenal world while holding on to some basic virtues and character attributes such as martial loyalty, obedience and subservience to command whoever may be the master at the time who the soldier serves. It is not the professional policemen's or the soldier's absolute responsibility to shun duty and take up the higher revolutionary cause for one's motherland's freedom but it is more often than not construed as a traitorous act to alter allegiance. Such was the predicament that the average Indian police personnel or the military man faced and only those who were historically placed as prisoners of war and were fortunate enough to to meet the leader lustrous were persuaded by his presence, personality and patriotic fervour to shift allegiance. That the remaining stuck to their guard and bore down the revolutionaries with their barrels cannot be so much held against them as traitorous acts in the light of police and military ethics. Patriotism in the revolutionary sense demands a higher order of inner awakening which the average contender in the cantonment cannot quite muster. Hence, these anomalies of history which we must resolve in a higher understanding of the psychology of the forces and the strange transformations in the political order that history not so infrequently throws up.
Contact me here in the comment section of my posts as and when the book is published and, if it be good, as I well know it will be from your perceptive observations in general, I shall be gratified to do the needful should it conduce, to my perception, to the good of the historical cause that I consistently represent.
The lives of the revolutionaries are well documented in a myriad books and information also is copiously available online. Do take the pains to go thoroughly through them and then take to enlightening others with your relevant posts on their life and times, career and course, service and sacrifice. This indeed will be real patriotism instead of passively pointing out the failings of the political dispensation at the helm of affairs, especially in today's age when information is so easily accessible and its dissemination has diverse channels at hand.
Well, I am happy to get your response. As for my own self, I can but write and, so, hope to kindle interest in the revolutionary movement for freedom. That is my forte and I will endeavour to do it that way. I am not too hopeful that it will work but, as I said, I have no better means at my disposal than doing it this way. The proliferating ignorance in general about all matters that require a modicum of intellectual acumen and application to arrive at some sort of a conception is the sign of a precipitating culture. This has to be countered effectively and it is no easy matter to do so. But while I am not too hopeful in the short run of a cultural renaissance of sorts, I am neither pessimistic unduly as I know the younger generations are turning on a new leaf and will emerge from the shadows of the present to engage in future in fruitful and constructive recollection of the past. Here I may sow some seeds of future fruition to the fulfilment of which task I am relentlessly engaged in. So may you or may not in accordance with whether you deem it fruitful or futile, as the case may be, and either help in the build-up process of this information revolution or be a bystander watching it. For my part, I have chosen my vocation, which is also my mission, in the passionate dissemination of diverse currents and perspectives on the revolutionary saga. I find it fulfilling and, so, engage in it. I am an idealistic person and have striven lifelong to infecting others with a like idealism related to our motherland. This patriotic fervour which overwhelmed me in adolescence and early youth has sustained me in life's trials and tribulations when the petty personal self has been dwarfed before the greater good of the nation that has nursed me. When today I witness insincere folks by the thousands preaching what the Nehruvian dispensation ought to have done by way of propagating the revolutionary narrative of the freedom movement, I wonder how many of these have ever even bothered to go through already available material on the grand deeds of these daring votaries for freedom. Our academic culture needs to be raised and that calls for both governmental and individual effort, for ultimately the government is but the executive organ of the electorate which is the collection of all the adult individuals of the nation. And herein lies our personal responsibility in 'being the change we want to see in the world' around. I am doing my wee bit and others will do theirs in their own way and by their own understanding, but to keep on criticising past governments for often our own lapses in knowledge is detrimental to the cause of the nation's rise as much as perfidious politicians have been for it. Thank you, nonetheless, for your responses and keep on contributing thus at least for the furtherance of interest in my posts which are meant for the quickening of national interest in the revolutionary saga.
I am indebted to you for your perceptive and sympathetic reading of my essays which largely have to endure the neglect of the general public owing to their abstruse thematic content and presentation thereof. What largely appeals to the general reader, though, are the beautiful photographs that feature my posts and for this I can claim no credit. It is the rare perceptive reader like you that fuels my further interest in featuring future posts beyond, of course, the impelling drive of the inner flow that spontaneously issues in the form of words and images over which I have no control save in editing a few words here and there, for Wordsworth was right when he had defined poetry thus : 'Poetry is the spontaneous overflow of powerful feelings : it takes its origin from emotion recollected in tranquillity.' Thank you,
John
, for so befriending my written word and, in consequence, the personality behind that gives expression to it.Sugata Bose : @
Subrata Sengupta
But there is substance to his (Prof. Sugata Bose's) arguments anyway which must be countered in a conclusive manner. Srijit Mukherjee had cornered him, though, in his encounter with the Professor in an ABP Ananda programme prior to the release of his film 'Gumnami'. The anchor, Suman Dey, had to hold back Mukherjee in his offensive against the professor's arrogant assertions and the learned one hardly had answers to the filmmaker's pointed probes into the inconsistencies of the air-crash theory. The professor, foiled with fact and irrefutable logic, resorted to personal attacks on the filmmaker and his film's hero, Prosenjit Chatterjee, which conclusively established the hollowness of his articulated case. What I intend to highlight here is that such clear thinking and cool interception of fabricated theory is necessary as Srijit Mukherjee eminently exhibited that day to expose the hollowness of the historian's arguments and, in consequence, sent him into indignant mode which all the more exposed the insubstantial nature of his arguments. But it has to be done the Mukherjee way in precise and pertinent manner without getting deflected from the essential argument or midway seeking a compromise with the adversary for the sake of civic propriety.Sugata Bose : @Atmaram S. Puri -- Analyses, plural of analysis, as they will be many of the many episodes to be recounted. And, of course, these will my analyses for sure, for whose else can they be in my name?
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