Sugata Bose Should Mahatma Gandhi not be awarded a posthumous Bharat Ratna? Why is the Government of India not considering doing it?Bishwajith Barman Try Gandhian philosophy when on duty on a volatile border like LoC 😂😂Sugata Bose With stick and spinning-wheel, right?Anal Hajra What is the reason behind your demand?Sugata Bose Not a demand, simply a query. Was set into wondering why the Government never contemplates giving Gandhi Bharat Ratna when it tries all means to award it posthumous to Netaji?Alok N Chattopadhyaya Mahatma Gandhi and Subhas Bose are beyond any decoration.Sugata Bose Very well. Then explain why the Government of India has in the past attempted posthumous decoration of Bharat Ratna on Netaji top be foiled only by the iconic Bose family, the Forward Bloc Party and Netaji's countless supporters and followers?Alok N Chattopadhyaya They had to withdraw.Sugata Bose But that is no answer to my question.Alok N Chattopadhyaya Was that a right decision? no. Both are the best sons of our motherland.Sugata Bose True, but even if the GOI had made a mistake, why had they not made a similar mistake with Gandhiji? And what prompted them to do so with Netaji? You have yet to answer my question if you can and should you choose to. Otherwise, I will have to draw my own conclusions about this little conversation.Alok N Chattopadhyaya I have already told you, it was a mistake. Govt might have thought the decision would have a popular impact in the state of West Bengal or might be a political gain. Some political parties from West Bengal opposed. I don't think commoners had any say at that point in time. It was revealed too from the declassified file that the former Prime Minister Sri Narasimha Rao had proposed to confer Bharat Ratna posthumously on Netaji. You can draw your own conclusion, I'm not an intelligent person, what I know I have mentioned.Sugata Bose Alok Babu, I respect you very much. Do not take me amiss. This is just to initiate a discussion and you have done that very well. Thank you for that. Now that the fire has been kindled, let the wood chips fall in to build it into a conflagration.Alok N Chattopadhyaya Everyone knows your quality. I have a deep regard for you. Thank you very much.
Abhishek Sanyal Let us consider on Rashbehari Bose for the time being.
Sugata Bose Abhishek, I am facing charges as to why Rash Behari Bose is being downgraded with this attempt by us to whip up public support for his Bharat Ratna as he is no less a freedom fighter than Gandhiji and the GOI cannot even contemplate conferring the Bharat Ratna on the Mahatma for their own reasons. Hence, the discussion. Is it clear?Abhishek Sanyal Sugata Bose Most of the people know about Gandhiji but very few people know about Sri Rashbehari Bose. The target of the mass petition is to make more and more people aware about the great contribution of such people in our freedom. There is nothing downgrading or upgrading in it.Sugata Bose Abhishek Sanyal, say this to the people who are objecting to our project. Give your defence there.Sumit Chandra Abhishek Sanyal why not Gandhi? Gandhi should be given what Nehru took. Aren't they birds of the same flock?Abhishek Sanyal Sumit Chandra I don't think that way.Sumit Chandra Abhishek Sanyal what do you think Then?Lipi Ghosh No. He can't have this honour. He had almost done nothing against partitionSugata Bose But Nehru engineered the Partition with Jinnah and the British. If he could get himself declared Bharat Rtana, should Gandhiji ought not to have an equal, and, why not, even greater claim to the title?Lipi Ghosh Yes. I agree.It was a blunder to give that honour to Nehru. In fact it was a gift from his family.Indrajit Dutt Jawaharlal didn’t nominate himself for the Bharat Ratna, it was President Rajendra Prasad—ironically, a critic of Nehru—who took an unconstitutional initiative to confer the award on the Prime Minister, after receiving stupendous response on his visit to Russia. That his action would be“endorsed most enthusiastically” was the counter-weight to the unconstitutional act and speaks volumes about Nehru’s standing even among his critics at the time. Audience need to go thru Dr. Rajendra Prasad: Correspondence and Selected Documents before making such comments. Layman's useless comments distort history.Narayanan Gandhi Mahatma Gandhi was the one Universal Leader whom all sections of Indian Public and also all sections of Indian Political leadership respected. There was no other political leader in India with this much degree of near universal acceptance. It was the stated policy of Indian Independence League founded by Rashbehari Bose and A.M. Nair its affiliate unit the I.N.A. that Indian National Congress as advised by Gandhiji will be the ultimate authority about national affairs within India and that the role of IIL and INA confines to strengthening the fight waged within India by Gandhi's Congress. So Gandhiji stands above Bharat Ratna or any other national award. Subhas Bose has acknowledged this by calling Gandhi as the Father of the Nation and Kasturba as the Mother of the Nation. And so did Rabindranath Tagore by calling Gandhi as the Mahatma.Narayanan Gandhi Correction : It was the stated policy of Indian Independence League founded by Rashbehari Bose and A.M. Nair and its affiliate unit, the I.N.A., that Indian National Congress as advised by Gandhiji were the ultimate authority about national affairs within India and that the role of IIL and INA confines to strengthening the fight waged within India by Gandhi's Congress.Kaushik Chatterjee you need to know the criteria for awarding Bharat Ratna...Sugata Bose Please inform us.Nirmal Jiwan Mahatma Gandhi will be given PAKISTAN RATNA, as he was only favoring Pakistan.Sugata Bose Good one.Vijay Kishor I think Gandhi is above than Bharat Ratna and or even Noble prize. He had made himself a 'Viswa Manav'. Giving Bharat Ratna to Mahtama is actually not justified.Sushen Biswas No, I don't think he deserves any. What he had deserved was given by Nathuram Godse. I remember a few lines in a book: Netaji said that if he (Gandhi) had belonged to any other country, he would either have been given a death sentence or thrown into to a psychiatric hospital. Netaji also said that indepdence would not come under his leadership. Netaji caught his tric to be on top of the nation in the name of freedom-fighting. Even the British swore that they quit India not for fear of Gandhi but Subhas. The greatest ever damage he did with the partition will never ever be made up even in a billion years. The harms planted by him still continues and increasing day in day out. He should be deleted from Indians' hearts. But we are sunk in so deep sins that Netaji had been tried to be deleted from our hearts with all framed up literature not the history.Rajyashree Chaudhuri Mahatma Gandhi should get Dada Saheb Phalke Award and Oscar for being the greatest dramatist in the history of the WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He, brilliantly and convincingly acted as a Father figure of Patriotism when he was something otherwise,he preached disarmament amongst apostles of anti imperialism and abetted their torture and mass killings by imperialists . But till date none are having the guts to expose this great dramatist,leave alone ,anyone doing so or suspecting so during his life time!!!!!!!!!!!!Sugata BoseSantosh Roy গান্ধীজী নেতাজি সবার উপরে । আপনি ভারতের জাতীর জনককে এভাবে ব্যঙ্গ করতে পারেন না। ভবিষ্যতে এভাবে মন্তব্য করবেন না কারন আপনার মতো শিক্ষিত নারীর কাছে তা শোভা পায় না...Rajyashree Chaudhuri Santosh Roy Gandhiji has abused our trust. He is no father of the Nation. Nowhere it is recorded in the legal documents, constitution ,transfer of Power or any government document.He duped us .Partition to allowing the hanging of Bhagat Singh to making Nehru -a lumpen like him-the PM of India. People of India didnot desrve this treatment neither they expected this kind of betrayal from Gandhiji.Narayanan Gandhi And the all the great leaders of India including SCB should get best supporting actors award !Rajyashree Chaudhuri They are no match in acting to the impostor Gandhiji.They had no brains to act like him.They made themselves suffer, some got hanged, some were tortured in Kalapani,which dramatist Gandhiji couldnot even imagine.Had Gandhiji and his loyal lumpen assistant Nehru would have been exposed to any of these torutres they would have gone to hell within minutes!!!!!!! So none of the freedom fighters except Lumpen Gandhiji and Lumpen Nehru deserve any of the Acting awards.The freedom fighters truly sacrificed their lives for people with sub human ungrateful generation-next like you. Truly diseased people like you should have been born during the British tyranny and should have got a touch of their tyranny for realizing the level of hands -in-gloves deal of Gandhi-Nehruji and their stooges had with the tyrants in betrayal to countrymen's trust.Probably a pinch of those tortures would have made you spit at the names of your apostles and kick their pictures and statues wherever they are and not insanely be overwhelmed by them .Narayan Gandhi Sugato Sugata Bose. However I wish our talented Freedom fighters truly acted and betrayed us and survived the british tyranny and took over Independent India.Their brains were super human and we would have been lead better than this group of lumpens! But alas the truthful patriots courted all tortures for us and died for us and thus from foreign tyrants the mantle of power got transferred to local LUMPENS.It is still continuing.
Abhishek Sanyal Let us consider on Rashbehari Bose for the time being.
Sugata Bose Abhishek, I am facing charges as to why Rash Behari Bose is being downgraded with this attempt by us to whip up public support for his Bharat Ratna as he is no less a freedom fighter than Gandhiji and the GOI cannot even contemplate conferring the Bharat Ratna on the Mahatma for their own reasons. Hence, the discussion. Is it clear?Abhishek Sanyal Sugata Bose Most of the people know about Gandhiji but very few people know about Sri Rashbehari Bose. The target of the mass petition is to make more and more people aware about the great contribution of such people in our freedom. There is nothing downgrading or upgrading in it.Sugata Bose Abhishek Sanyal, say this to the people who are objecting to our project. Give your defence there.Sumit Chandra Abhishek Sanyal why not Gandhi? Gandhi should be given what Nehru took. Aren't they birds of the same flock?Abhishek Sanyal Sumit Chandra I don't think that way.Sumit Chandra Abhishek Sanyal what do you think Then?Lipi Ghosh No. He can't have this honour. He had almost done nothing against partitionSugata Bose But Nehru engineered the Partition with Jinnah and the British. If he could get himself declared Bharat Rtana, should Gandhiji ought not to have an equal, and, why not, even greater claim to the title?Lipi Ghosh Yes. I agree.It was a blunder to give that honour to Nehru. In fact it was a gift from his family.Indrajit Dutt Jawaharlal didn’t nominate himself for the Bharat Ratna, it was President Rajendra Prasad—ironically, a critic of Nehru—who took an unconstitutional initiative to confer the award on the Prime Minister, after receiving stupendous response on his visit to Russia. That his action would be“endorsed most enthusiastically” was the counter-weight to the unconstitutional act and speaks volumes about Nehru’s standing even among his critics at the time. Audience need to go thru Dr. Rajendra Prasad: Correspondence and Selected Documents before making such comments. Layman's useless comments distort history.Narayanan Gandhi Mahatma Gandhi was the one Universal Leader whom all sections of Indian Public and also all sections of Indian Political leadership respected. There was no other political leader in India with this much degree of near universal acceptance. It was the stated policy of Indian Independence League founded by Rashbehari Bose and A.M. Nair its affiliate unit the I.N.A. that Indian National Congress as advised by Gandhiji will be the ultimate authority about national affairs within India and that the role of IIL and INA confines to strengthening the fight waged within India by Gandhi's Congress. So Gandhiji stands above Bharat Ratna or any other national award. Subhas Bose has acknowledged this by calling Gandhi as the Father of the Nation and Kasturba as the Mother of the Nation. And so did Rabindranath Tagore by calling Gandhi as the Mahatma.Narayanan Gandhi Correction : It was the stated policy of Indian Independence League founded by Rashbehari Bose and A.M. Nair and its affiliate unit, the I.N.A., that Indian National Congress as advised by Gandhiji were the ultimate authority about national affairs within India and that the role of IIL and INA confines to strengthening the fight waged within India by Gandhi's Congress.Kaushik Chatterjee you need to know the criteria for awarding Bharat Ratna...Sugata Bose Please inform us.Nirmal Jiwan Mahatma Gandhi will be given PAKISTAN RATNA, as he was only favoring Pakistan.Sugata Bose Good one.Vijay Kishor I think Gandhi is above than Bharat Ratna and or even Noble prize. He had made himself a 'Viswa Manav'. Giving Bharat Ratna to Mahtama is actually not justified.Sushen Biswas No, I don't think he deserves any. What he had deserved was given by Nathuram Godse. I remember a few lines in a book: Netaji said that if he (Gandhi) had belonged to any other country, he would either have been given a death sentence or thrown into to a psychiatric hospital. Netaji also said that indepdence would not come under his leadership. Netaji caught his tric to be on top of the nation in the name of freedom-fighting. Even the British swore that they quit India not for fear of Gandhi but Subhas. The greatest ever damage he did with the partition will never ever be made up even in a billion years. The harms planted by him still continues and increasing day in day out. He should be deleted from Indians' hearts. But we are sunk in so deep sins that Netaji had been tried to be deleted from our hearts with all framed up literature not the history.Rajyashree Chaudhuri Mahatma Gandhi should get Dada Saheb Phalke Award and Oscar for being the greatest dramatist in the history of the WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He, brilliantly and convincingly acted as a Father figure of Patriotism when he was something otherwise,he preached disarmament amongst apostles of anti imperialism and abetted their torture and mass killings by imperialists . But till date none are having the guts to expose this great dramatist,leave alone ,anyone doing so or suspecting so during his life time!!!!!!!!!!!!Sugata BoseSantosh Roy গান্ধীজী নেতাজি সবার উপরে । আপনি ভারতের জাতীর জনককে এভাবে ব্যঙ্গ করতে পারেন না। ভবিষ্যতে এভাবে মন্তব্য করবেন না কারন আপনার মতো শিক্ষিত নারীর কাছে তা শোভা পায় না...Rajyashree Chaudhuri Santosh Roy Gandhiji has abused our trust. He is no father of the Nation. Nowhere it is recorded in the legal documents, constitution ,transfer of Power or any government document.He duped us .Partition to allowing the hanging of Bhagat Singh to making Nehru -a lumpen like him-the PM of India. People of India didnot desrve this treatment neither they expected this kind of betrayal from Gandhiji.Narayanan Gandhi And the all the great leaders of India including SCB should get best supporting actors award !Rajyashree Chaudhuri They are no match in acting to the impostor Gandhiji.They had no brains to act like him.They made themselves suffer, some got hanged, some were tortured in Kalapani,which dramatist Gandhiji couldnot even imagine.Had Gandhiji and his loyal lumpen assistant Nehru would have been exposed to any of these torutres they would have gone to hell within minutes!!!!!!! So none of the freedom fighters except Lumpen Gandhiji and Lumpen Nehru deserve any of the Acting awards.The freedom fighters truly sacrificed their lives for people with sub human ungrateful generation-next like you. Truly diseased people like you should have been born during the British tyranny and should have got a touch of their tyranny for realizing the level of hands -in-gloves deal of Gandhi-Nehruji and their stooges had with the tyrants in betrayal to countrymen's trust.Probably a pinch of those tortures would have made you spit at the names of your apostles and kick their pictures and statues wherever they are and not insanely be overwhelmed by them .Narayan Gandhi Sugato Sugata Bose. However I wish our talented Freedom fighters truly acted and betrayed us and survived the british tyranny and took over Independent India.Their brains were super human and we would have been lead better than this group of lumpens! But alas the truthful patriots courted all tortures for us and died for us and thus from foreign tyrants the mantle of power got transferred to local LUMPENS.It is still continuing.
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