Thursday 5 September 2019

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Sugata Bose Humility is the hallmark of the great and you, Debaprasad Babu, epitomise it. Verily has it been said, 'Vidya dadaati vinayam'.
Sugata Bose Ramen Banerjee I have read Utpal Aich's article on this Radhakrishnan plagiarism issue and can only repose faith in it. As to the veracity of the facts I trust Utpal Babu's scholarship and the references he has cited to uphold his case. More than this I am not privy to and cannot comment on in consequence.
Sugata Bose Santanu Dutta Gupta Netaji Bose's family is not quite my family as such for I am unrelated by blood-bond to Netaji. Perhaps, like many others, you are also mistaking my identity and confusing me with my namesake, Dr. Sisir Bose's eminent son, Dr. Sugata Bose, who is the Gardiner Professor of History in Harvard University. Well, to clarify conceptions, I am not he but am quite another Sugata Bose of humbler attainments, albeit with a modicum of knowledge of the language of our colonist occupiers which, perhaps, makes this identity crisis worse confounded. Anyhow, thanks for your sincere compliment and I do hope that my identity is by now settled in your mind as distinct from the erudite Professor.
Sugata Bose Madhusudan Pal Even I have noticed this that the 'marriage-progeny' protagonists keep silent whenever the issue surfaces on social media but keep propagating the story, nonetheless, in their references and addresses which gives the general public the impression that, after all, what they are saying holds greater ground. So, the marital narrative grips the public imagination by default. The only way to counter this is to articulate the opposite view in clearly rational terms, founded on solid facts or citing solidly the lack of solid evidence to support the marital narrative, and this must be done without giving in to undue emotional outburst or poetic dilly dallying round the central truth. We need to learn to fearlessly present the truth. For this our own defence must be strong, rational, impregnable and legally tenable. Mere online effusion may win temporary support of the unthinking masses but will fail to achieve the long-term goal of the correct chronicling of facts.
Sugata Bose Netaji in this photograph clearly looks celibate to me. His face seems tinged with the limpid light of early innocence. Who says he was otherwise with dubious carnal connections?
Sugata Bose Santanu Dutta Gupta Are you sure that Netaji will do so? Are you privy to his whereabouts and his thoughts? Can present problems stemming from the past and past perfidies running down to the present day not be tackled simultaneously? Is the country a monolithic entity that it has to run along a unidimemensional line? Ought not historical heresies be addressed along with redressing economic evils?
Although, I am rebutting your argument for argument's sake, I do appreciate your concern for the economic revival of our nation in attempting which hundreds of millions will be lifted out of poverty which was one of the principal concerns of Netaji as well. Our reverence to the hero would then lie in labouring for such an economic rejuvenation that will reset the country along its age-old track of material prosperity. But the history of the nation is being played with by hired historians and this cannot be allowed. Hence, the movement to resurrect the right narrative of the freedom struggle is so pertinent for the times and to this effect we are directing fractionally our efforts even as we in our individual and collective capacities are sinking in our ploughshare for the economic revival of India.
Sugata Bose Abhijit Dutt Right you are. Suresh Bose vehemently opposed it and dubbed it a Nehruvian conspiracy, hatched to diminish Netaji's moral stature and, so, erode his public image which threatened him. The question, though, remains -- why did so many other family members accept this marital tale that is so full of loopholes that seven decades of consistent effort has failed to plug?
Sugata Bose Abhijit Dutt I am afraid you are confusing me with the Harvard historian Prof. Sugata Bose, son of Dr. Sisir Bose, which I am not. I am quite another Sugata Bose of far humbler attainments and totally unconnected by way of blood-bond to Netaji's extended family.
Sugata Bose Abhijit Dutt The DNA Test of Frau Anita Brigette Pfaff will be inconclusive in terms of proving her to be Netaji's daughter even if her DNA matches with those of the members of Netaji's extended family. After all, how may it be ascertained that she was born of Netaji for sure even if the DNA matches with the family members?
Sugata Bose Abhijit Dutt Who knows for certain whose progeny who is? Merely the fact remains that even a DNA match would remain inconclusive evidence of Anita Brigette Pfaff being Netaji's daughter.
Sugata Bose You see, Abhijit Babu, there are many issues involved here. A simplistic solution of the DNA may be attempted but will lead to no definite conclusion thereby. 1) The Renkoji Temple was totally gutted in a terrible fire that consumed all of it in 1989, if I recall the year right. How could the said ashes and skeletal remains interned there have escaped destructive obliteration is what has to be first addressed. This is the problem facing the establishment of Netaji's air-crash death by means of DNA Test. 2) Anita's identity as Netaji's daughter would face the difficulty that I have mentioned in an earlier comment. 3) Whose ashes and bones are there in the urn at Renkoji post the devastation by fire? This is a moot question.
Sugata Bose Debankur Mukherjee Right you are. The inconclusiveness of the whole affair will fuel speculation all the more and contrary theories will abound to conflicting ends. Whether Netaji was celibate or married would then have to be determined by the other reasonable method built upon documentary evidence, should there be any of any sort to validate it. But there isn't any, we know, and this makes the marital proposition merely an imposition on the peerless patriot of unimpeachable character and defiles his image unduly. The loopholes in the roughly woven narrative are glaring and sheer callousness of approach to the great man's life will allow one to subscribe to such a denigrating departure from a sane depiction of his life and times. The man vanishes and all these perfidious profiles are added unto him. On what basis, may I ask? One question, though. What was Sarat Chandra Bose's status on this 'marital' status of Netaji? The reasoning here must be unbiased and whole and selective statements will not do.

Sugata Bose Madhusudan Pal But should we not crush them in verbal combat by positing equally intellectually certified counter-arguments? After all, intellectualism is not their private prerogative.

Sugata Bose Madhusudan Pal True, but one can continuously expose the loopholes in their argument by sustained counter-campaign. This will inevitably win over public opinion in the long run, as it has already done to a significant extent, and will gradually marginalise them and their malicious propaganda. However, for this we need to combine effectively and build up our own propaganda machinery as is the wont in all army operations. Let us say, we are also operating on behalf of the great cause but right now as a ramshackle unit. We ought to professionalise our offensive as in a military campaign and steadily advance to counter perfidious falsification of history and crush malicious maligning of the character of the great one.

Sugata Bose Madhusudan Pal Here you must give us the lead and you are already doing so. Others like Keshab Bhattacherjee and Drjayanta Choudhuri are also doing a seminal job but coordination in campaign is sadly lacking. We need to galvanise ourselves into a well-oiled machinery --- as Netaji had alluded to in his Haripura Congress Presidential Address which became the point of inflexion in our national politics thereon --- and invade the enemy terrain to destroy their citadels in corrupt fabrications. Isolated endeavours, however great in intent and objective, will prove insufficient in combating the combined might of malicious propagandists. Therefore, a like concerted effort on our part is the call of the hour, too. I hope researchers and activists will effectively combine to combat these conspiratorial forces.

Sugata Bose Debojyoti Misra Not I, for sure. Perhaps, you are mistaking me to be the historian Sugata Bose, son of Krishna Bose and late Sisir Bose. Well, I must tell you that I am not he. I am quite another Sugata Bose born in a family by no way connected to Netaji's family. However, if you still feel that I have not done anything substantial for the cause that we all espouse through our copious posts online, then you have a point. But I wonder how much a man of my feeble means can do for the grand mission of the resurrection of the revolutionaries from enforced oblivion. After all, I am a writer and am doing my modest bit for the cause through my literary endeavours. If beyond that my ability permits, I will be happy to do that added bit as well for the cause, but will that also be good enough to satisfy you? I wonder. Anyhow, I will try to be even more committed to the cause from now on. God bless you! Thank you. Jai Hind!

Sugata Bose Why so, Debaprasad Babu? Is it so obscure that it is incomprehensible quite? I do agree that it is a layered literary piece with nuances drifting beneath to subliminal levels and then surfacing again to catch the current of common consciousness, the melee of multitudinous conflicting thoughts and their constant resolution that comprise the body of this phenomenal play of things. A cursory glance may not reveal these subtler elements, perhaps, and one may not be spared by life's exigencies the leisure to delve deeper into the essay, but, should one afford oneself a fair bit of time to reflect on the content of the write-up while reading it, I am sure one will be able to plumb the meaning of the passage clear and simple, eventhough, I must admit that it contains compressed material in a faraway style expressed that will likely elude the attention of many a reader hastily coursing through it. I hope you will spare yourself the leisure to read the piece again to test the validity of my assertion and appreciate the core content of the piece, if even you find the style grandiose and uninteresting.

Sugata Bose Debaprasad Babu, oh, what a faus pax ! It was I who failed to get the drift of your comment and, so, launched an elaborate defence of the piece, albeit in a respectful way, for you well know how much I personally regard you.

Sugata Bose This is a most significant document of the freedom struggle. I exhort all to read it.

Sugata Bose @Pranjal Mallick : What a piece of writing to express a loss of far greater significance, though, where words can scarce match the pulsations felt or not to be felt anymore save in memories redolent of distant dreams drifting in through the thoroughfare of the workaday life and of leisurely hours drawing oneself to dewy dawn's misty moments!

Sugata Bose All this evil karma is accumulating for the eventual decimation of Pakistan and the theocratic creed they represent.

Sugata Bose Chandra Kumar Bose Three crucial Japanese files that are yet to be declassified could be holding the clue to unravelling this mystery.

Sugata Bose Dinesh K Jani The photo reveals to what length Netaji had inspired the expatriate Indians in East Asia as to draw them spontaneously into the struggle for the motherland's liberation, a motherland which most of them had never ever seen in person. These Ranis fought not only for India's freedom but they fought in effect for the rights of women as have today obtained in free India by participating equally in the struggle to free her from colonial fetters. It was Netaji's idea that women, equal partners in life by natural right, ought also to be co-pariticipants in the struggle for the motherland's freedom so as to rightfully obtain their rights in free India. And these Ranis, barely sixteen year old girls, led the way for which all of free India's womanhood should feel grateful. These young girls, Netaji's daughters, who carried on the work of espionage and intelligence, went often to the front with the men and courted all the dangers that war offered. Never shrinking from their martial and patriotic duty, they earned the respect of the men who not only guarded their honour but held them in veneration as the daughters of Netaji in the Indian National Army.

Sugata Bose Debaprasad Bhattacharya Netaji was a path-finder and a path-breaker in many a way whose observance would do credit to our country even today, and especially today as we move towards the making of a nation 'out of the disparate races of India', to quote Swami Vivekananda. Netaji's forevision about the ensuring age with its brewing possibilities and evolving structural demands, its aspirations and the course of its advancing meandering movement, made him formulate not only the principles of the emerging nationhood but also the practices that were most congenial for the fruition of such solidarity of national living. Women and the masses occupied the foremost position in this scheme of national unfolding just as his spiritual mentor in absentia had averred when speaking on the utmost requirements for the emergence of future India. And Netaji, true to his understanding of the sage's utterance and adding unto it his ingenious plans and programmes for its furtherance, chalked up a comprehensive national development scheme wherein from population control to police organisation, defence to dialect diversity and education to economics, he had drawn the blueprint of his future manifesto in absolute detail that amazed even hardened German observers as to the astuteness and originality of this brilliant thinker among the revolutionary leaders of the day. Alas, the disappearance of the hero miscarried all these aspired ends and we are where we are today. Had it been otherwise, India would have been among the foremost of nations in every field and sphere of human endeavour.

Sugata Bose Carry on, Diganta, with the good work. You are doing a service unto the group which many a member I pleaded with in utmost humility refused to render. And each post of yours is worth a lot for they are loaded with thoughts of the seminal ones who remain inspirational to many of us even to this day of declining culture and decadent moral values.

Sugata Bose Sushanta Banerjee Morality springs from spirituality and, thus, all forms of human excellence essentially have a deeply rooted spirituality which is often unseen superficially but exists beneath the surface of things, nonetheless.

Both Tagore and Netaji had this deep sense of spiritual kinship with the common man which they translated into their seminal deeds. The moral fibre in a person lacking, he will fail to achieve anything worthwhile in life. Hence, the significance of spirituality in social life of the common man and, more so, of the leader.

Sugata Bose This video film is a revelation. All confusion seems to be cleared, all doubt dispelled for the while at least before they inevitably reappear owing to human limits of credulity.

Sugata Bose A revealing video where the interviewee's devotion to the cause of Netaji is infectious and inspirational to make explicit an understatement.

Sugata Bose Swami Virajananda was initiated with the Ishta Mantra by Holy Mother Sri Sarada Devi but had received the mantra for initiation into sannyas from Swami Vivekananda.

Sugata Bose Bijoy Kumar Nag's lifelong commitment to the cause must not be allowed to go unnoticed and must be brought to public notice forthwith for the well-being of the cause itself. Come forward and help Jayasree in this crusade for the resurrection of the message of the messiah of Indian nationalism.

Sugata Bose Diganta Sengupta I am exhausted making requests to the researchers for making a direct post a day. Now we will deluge this page with cartloads of posts. You just wait and see how we will rock up the group.

Sugata Bose Abhijit Dutt You are right but you misread the meaning intended. I meant 'those atheists who are devoid of ethics owing to lack of perception of the Spirit and reverence for the sacred literature of the world which are the mine of ethical principles'. The post does not castigate atheists as unethical as such but the ambiguity of language in a condensed post limited by the colour code of finite characters led to the misapprehension in you, I understand. Another point. The post posits a question and does not affirm any opinion as such. There also the defence to the intended meaning, perhaps, comes clear.

Sugata Bose Even imperialist Britain and capitalist USA allied themselves with communist Soviet Russia in their bid to battle with the mighty Axis Powers. Where such ideological differences can be for the while be bridged, so to say, to serve the interest of the hour, that of preservation of national freedom, what was ethically wrong on Bose's alliance with Nazi Germany and fascist imperial Japan to fight for his motherland's freedom? This alliance was not an ideological one but fundamentally one of realpolitik suited to serve the specific objective of wresting freedom from the occupying colonists who were sacking the life-blood out of India. And Bose never for once compromised the cause of his motherland to appease his intended allies. He squarely met them on level grounds of equal alliance in the cause of the destruction of Anglo-American political dominance in Asia.

Sugata Bose Rajeev Pal I wholeheartedly corroborate your view.

Sugata Bose Rajeev Pal You write well, indeed, with clear cogent arguments. Join hands with me in this group and start serving the cause is my exhortation unto you.

Sugata Bose Rajeev Pal Then diligently keep gleaning information from this group and prepare yourself slowly for shouldering the task, this seminal service that you may render to the cause, this labour of love that will shower a dual blessing on both yourself and your readers, the common mass of humanity curious to know what happened to Netaji post 18 August, 1945.

Sugata Bose Rajeev Pal What deal?

Sugata Bose Rajeev Pal This latter attempt is a tall order to achieve and you will get response from the right quarters only with patient perseverance. Also, if you yourself feel ardently for the cause, then and then alone will the enthusiasm rub off onto your associates and acquaintances.

Sugata Bose Somnath Jana Let me clarify my position, though. I am quite another Sugata Bose from the one you, perhaps, allude to. I am not Sarat Bose's grandson, Sugata Bose.

Sugata Bose Subhas Chanda The point to be noted here is this. Many claim to be researchers but few are well-groomed in the thoroughness that genuine research demands. Hence, the discrepancies and the consequent differences of opinion.

I stress the word 'opinion' as opposed to 'finding' which is the fruit of pure research. Claim is one, concrete evidence another. Moreover, individual preference, predilection and prejudiced preconception cannot be the criteria for arriving at seasoned inference. If so, such arrivals must be deemed presumptuous.

Objective dispassionate research we rarely come across in this highly emotive issue of the Netaji disappearance mystery which in consequence clouds judgement and, instead of clarifying conceptions, confuses common understanding all the more. The way ahead must be to make individual efforts in gathering facts, gleaning freshly discovered data and ordering them into a synthetic structure of linked data distribution so that a rational sense evolves out of this morass of information and misinformation en route to solving this perplexing puzzle.

Join me in this mission, seemingly impossible but in truth very much possible to resolve, and help generate understanding among the common consciousness by sifting through diverse data and rationalising them to make for coherence of the narrative that today eludes all including the researchers galore.

Sugata Bose Subhas Chanda

There goes the bell ringing
Under the surging waves of the sea
When Sir Ralph the Rover comes along
And cuts it with malicious glee.

Subhas Babu, right you are but how will you convince them all? There are so many rival camps among the so-called experts with their conflicting claims and interests. Unless the ego be rooted out and and research assumes sole significance in the minds of these half-baked scholars with their baggage of idiosyncratic predispositions, how can truth emerge in the midst of their self-centred assertions? This is why I ask you to exert yourself to keep studying this contentious issue in order to arrive at your analytic-synthetic sense of it all.

Sugata Bose Brilliant, Diganta. What a post! Bravo, that's the way. You are leaving us all in debt. And guess who we are indebted to and you will feel doubly inspired.

Sugata Bose Partha Sanyal Learning so much, Partha. Thanks. Send in more articles, write-ups, comments et al. Let the group thrive with abundance of relevant data.

Sugata Bose Swapan Kumar Chaudhury Are you sure IB has proofs in the third case? You have said 'for or against'. Have you any information that you would like to share? Or is this one also based on hearsay as of now? Do not take me amiss. I am humbly enquiring to appease my appetite for knowledge in regard to it.

Sugata Bose @ Prodipto Bhattacharya Does Srijit Mukherjee think so? On television he remained non-committal though. I am yet to either see his film or come to any definite conclusion about this most inconclusive affair where counter-arguments abound and a plethora of claims, misinformation, flawed analysis and ludicrous logic cloud clear judgement. I am open to all information, privy to few, ignorant of most and in consequence totally undecided, although loaded by doubt heavily as to the truth of most of the fantastic superhuman feats attributed to the monk incognito of Faizabad. But I reserve my respect for all such despite it all for they are, by claims of the ardent, linked to Netaji whom I deeply love and adore. As I read more, my confusion clears a bit but some irrational propositions of reputed researchers and their unseemly diatribe against contrary opinion crystallises copious confusion and deliberate doubt again, unsettling my whole understanding. It seems this murky matter must induce misapprehension unless one exerts oneself to the utmost with an open, rational and a curious mind geared at gleaning data, sifting them with diligence and arriving at inferences, and that too with a steadfast, almost 'religious' devotion to plumbing its depths. To tell you the truth, I have not had the occasion to delve so deep and draw my own definite conclusions, although I, nonetheless and quite naturally, maintain my predilections and preconceptions about the entire issue which is indefinite, inconclusive and oscillating like the bob of a pendulum between contrarily disposed ends. I will keep apprising about my status in this regard through my copious posts, maintaining ever my neutrality by all means, for I am a writer and, as such, merely a reporter of events, thoughts, observations and analyses but not quite a conclusion about such a murky affair unless plumb it to a sufficient solid depth where I touch its bedrock and realise the truth for certain. Thank you for asking this question and helping me to self-analyse my thinking, thereby clarifying my thoughts and standpoint on this entire affair.

Sugata Bose Susmita Majumder Yes, right you are. But eminent British face-mapping expert, Neil Millar, thinks otherwise. He cites in his analysis a striking resemblance between the Tashkent Man's face and that of Netaji. He rates the similarity at a high grade, although he does not pronounce his verdict at near 100% identity. My untrained eye detects pronounced dissimilarities between the Row 2 Column 2 photograph with all other photographs exhibited here except the one on Row 2 Column 3 with which there are similarities.

One more point. Netaji would have been 69 years at the time of the Tashkent Pact and was unlikely to look younger than when he was 48 at the time of his sudden disappearance prior to which he had been copiously photographed as Supreme Commander of the INA. To this objection the protagonists of the Tashkent Man being Netaji aver that by use of make-up such youthful appearance is legitimately possible. As to the marked difference in features they cite that such distinctive differences were deliberately brought about by 'Netaji' to keep his person clear of possible identification at such a high-profile meet as Tashkent where such an eventuality would have inevitably led to his arrest as 'war criminal' (refer WW II) and subsequent trial and execution, a fate that was thus avoided by this youthful distinctive make-up which only the expert eye of a face-mapper could fathom. Thus, there is logic straight and logic convoluted to establish the said unlikely identity of the Tashkent Man with Netaji which leaves both belief and doubt equally suspended on even scales for the devout and the doubtful to draw their respective conclusions.

Sugata Bose Sourav Bose You have a point. Perceptive. Thank you for pointing it out. What is your inference then?

Sugata Bose Ratan Pal Brilliant analysis. Kudos.

Sugata Bose Susmita Majumder True, but what is your take on the Tashkent Man?

Sugata Bose @ Aneish Bhattacharya : That is the Tashkent Man who British face-mapping expert Neil Millar said bore striking facial similarities with Netaji, although, nowhere near absolute similarity as such. And yet legends grow and theories abound and the truth becomes more and more inaccessible to the masses amidst the plethora of unconnected episodes all attributed to the central personality through fantastic conceptions without rational support to substantiate their validity. Thus Netaji remains shrouded more and more amidst thickening cover beneath heaps of ever-accumulating myths and magic. The rational discourse is lost or is at best lopsided and disbalanced on contrary ends with rival parties to this perplexing position assuming a curious mixture of reason and assumption to force-feed the people their version of the truth. Who knows for sure the truth though?

Sugata Bose But the Tashkent Man does resemble a man from the subcontinent, I would even hazard, a Bengali. Mihir Bose, a biographer of Netaji, categorically affirmed before Siddharth Satbhai and several others in a programme called 'Chaye pe charcha' that the Tashkent Man was a Pakistani diplomat who had accompanied General Ayub Khan to the Tashkent Peace Summit. The name of this person he had been told by the Pakistani authorities but he could not then recall off-hand. This is a significant lead that needs exploration.

Sugata Bose Sree Ramakrishna Ananda Bilas Keno, tarka ki adarsher madhye sthaan paye na aar? Netaji nijei jaubaner prarambhe 'debating society' khulechhilen jatey desher manush baadanubaad korte shekhen juktisangata padhyatitey. Tai tarka jodi ahetuk kutarka na hoy, tahole ta abashya banchhaniya adarsher angarupei.

Netajir adarsha purush chhilen Swamiji o tnar adarsha purush chhilen Thakur Sri Ramakrishna. Ekdin Dakshineshwarey Narendra aar Girish Thakurer samnei Thakurer ichhanujayee baadanubaad korchhen adhyatmo bishoy niye. Thakur mon diye shunchhen. Emon samay bhaktaprabar Ramchandra Datta bole uthhlen je michhe tarkatorki kore ki hobe? Tatkshanaat Thakur tnake thamiye diye bolen, " Na, esob er proyojon achhe."

Atoyeb, baadanubaad, baad pratibaad choluk, tobe sabhyabhabe, juktinishthha hoye o oporer songbedonsheelotar katha mathay rekhe, jeno bakyer dwara aghaat dewa na hoy kauke.

Sugata Bose Sree Ramakrishna Ananda Bilas Apnar aboshyoi karoniyo ta jekaley emonti bujhe phelechhen. Aporer svadhinata raksha kore nijo pathey agrasar hon. Subhakamona roilo. Kintu sakaler opor nijo bhaab chapiye dewa chaitanyer paripanthi o adarshaskhalaner lokshon.

Sugata Bose Rash Behari Bose even disguised himself as a corpse once. The incident took place in Varanasi.

Sugata Bose Subroto Mitro And this monk, who lived incognito and was variously known as Bhagavanji, Pardewale Baba, Gumnami Baba and the like, did maintain (a) that Netaji had no romantic / marital relation with his Austrian secretary by the name Emilie Schenkl and had no progeny thereof, and (b) that the great escape was not effected with the help of Sisir Bose in the seat of the chauffeur.

Sugata Bose Ratan Pal Agreed. Just the headline can be read, that's it. All else is minuscule print, indecipherable as you have rightly put it. It will be a deed done if the script can be recovered somehow and the contents read. That would be service, indeed, if someone were to do it.

Sugata Bose The language is too effeminate for Netaji to have written it. Hardly fits his character. Let a forensic test be done on it to establish its authenticity.
P.S. : The language seems affected as well.

Sugata Bose Susmita Majumder, you have done a good job to bring the matter into circulation here. Let people deliberate, discuss, debate and draw deductions. Democracy demands such dialogue among parties with divergent views so that truth surfaces amidst such frictional intercourse. All that we need is to examine all possibilities with an unbiased, free and fair mind, and that we base our judgement on the basis of facts and not personal predilections and preconceptions. Our likes and dislikes cannot alter events, whichever way they be, and our idealism also cannot be the determinant of the episodes that may or may not have befallen a seminal being. Thank you, therefore, for raising the issue and inevitably creating the expected stir.

Sugata Bose Ratan Pal Right. That will prevent tampering of result.

Sugata Bose Apurba Mukherjee Will radio-carbon dating be able to establish the age of the letter to a degree of accuracy to the tune of decades?

Sugata Bose Kaushik Chatterjee Which means you accept this letter to have been written by Netaji? Or do you not? This letter is vital to solving whether Netaji had a romantic alliance with Emilie Schenkl or not. As such this discussion on a civilised basis is actually welcome. It will go a long way to dispelling illusions either way and, perchance, will carry forward this controversial vital issue to its logical scientific conclusion in due course of time.

Sugata Bose Kaushik Chatterjee I understand what you mean. But how about looking at it this way? Is it right to overlook this contentious point of a historical person's profile who for sure will be much demeaned in terms of character stature by imposition of a marital/romantic status for which there is no incontrovertible evidence? In such a case is it not reasonable that people will engage in asking for evidence to establish the authenticity of the purported relationship, and is it not also the rational way forward to keep the said discussion going so that it proceeds unto its natural scientific conclusion, its authentic inferential end?

Sugata Bose Condensed India Oho, how fanatical you are and how innocent of logic, intent and larger impulsion that prompt divergent discourse.

Sugata Bose Why not try and get this cache of letters tested forensically instead of making mere conjectures?

Sugata Bose The very address 'My darling,' is so uncharacteristic of a person of such self-restraint as Netaji was. It almost seems blasphemous but, alas, such have been the perfidies perpetrated against this premier patriot that anything seems possible to a section of the public through gullibility to propagation of falsity, and by default on account of paucity of knowledge. Also, some bring in the plausibility of marriage by way of natural impulse of a man isolated from home and hearth and, so, seeking company in an associate in a distant land. Not impossible, though, but improbable to a pronounced degree.

Sugata Bose Thank you, Debaprasad Babu, for being ever so magnanimous in your praise for such an unworthy one as this writer of the humblest order.

Sugata Bose Sharmistha Chatterjee I wholly endorse your view.

Sugata Bose Tapas Dasgupta It is my own comment, edited and embellished. Hence, it is fair, fit and fine to present it as a post. I have not posted here any other member's comment. Have I?

Sugata Bose Dr. Madhusudan Pal, I admire you for your articulate courage. Your direct diatribes are worth more in my estimation than softened poetic renditions by way of critical reference to the perfidies that are daily perpetrated against the peerless patriot. Your courage of conviction stems from your data base on Netaji and your analytical faculties that allow you to arrive at inferential truths. Do continue to write elaborately along this line of perceptive thinking so that mass awareness is better generated about the multilayered mystery surrounding Netaji.

Sugata Bose Partha Sanyal I am doing my wee bit by way of creating awareness about the many dastardly acts of treachery that have been and are still being perpetrated against the Prince of Patriots but, alas, our faculty for combination is, indeed, poor as we prefer to lie cooped up in our own microcosms of self-interest or self-indulgence. I exhort you, Partha, to exert yourself wholeheartedly to this great cause of setting right the diverse distortions that have crept into the narrative of Netaji's life anterior and posterior to his disappearance. I right now work unaided, for the apathy to any great work in our motherland is great. But, aided or unaided, the work must go on and it will by the impelling force of history where we are but significant and insignificant instruments in the hands of the Mother who dispenses the destiny of things. And so I labour on hoping that some day kindred spirits will catch the fire and dive deep into this ocean of undiscovered history to pick up the pearls and the corals from its fathomless depths. May you, Partha, join me in this labour of love, in this experience in exhilaration to solve one of the greatest mysteries of all time !

Sugata Bose All's quiet on the debating front. The infantry moves ahead while the generals hold their heads in the rear, ready to retreat at the slightest peril. Sad predicament but a real event. Read the 'Swadesh Mantra' of Swamiji to quicken courage. Who will lead if this is the state of leadership courage? Whither valour? Whither conviction? Whither character?

Sugata Bose Humility is the hallmark of the great and you, Debaprasad Babu, epitomise it. Verily has it been said, 'Vidya dadaati vinayam'.

Sugata Bose Ramen Banerjee I have read Utpal Aich's article on this Radhakrishnan plagiarism issue and can only repose faith in it. As to the veracity of the facts I trust Utpal Babu's scholarship and the references he has cited to uphold his case. More than this I am not privy to and cannot comment on in consequence.

Sugata Bose Diganta, flood the group page with perceptive posts. That will be service, indeed, for the cause.

Sugata Bose PRINCIPLE, PLEASE, NOT PERSONALITY ... 1

This constant harping on personality must stop. It is emphasis on principles that makes a nation. Remember nationalism itself is principle and not personality.

Written by Sugata Bose
Sugata Bose Debaprasad Bhattacharya Not if there is undue emphasis on personality to set up a cult that obscures the vision underlying the principle and aims at superseding it with self-interest. The line of demarcation is fine and must not be transgressed through the clamour of sycophants seeking self-gain by constant propaganda of the leader's name which befits, perhaps, a feudal society but not quite a democratic polity as such.

Sugata Bose Madhusudan Pal Even I have noticed this that the 'marriage-progeny' protagonists keep silent whenever the issue surfaces on social media but keep propagating the story, nonetheless, in their references and addresses which gives the general public the impression that, after all, what they are saying holds greater ground. So, the marital narrative grips the public imagination by default. The only way to counter this is to articulate the opposite view in clearly rational terms, founded on solid facts or citing solidly the lack of solid evidence to support the marital narrative, and this must be done without giving in to undue emotional outburst or poetic dilly dallying round the central truth. We need to learn to fearlessly present the truth. For this our own defence must be strong, rational, impregnable and legally tenable. Mere online effusion may win temporary support of the unthinking masses but will fail to achieve the long-term goal of the correct chronicling of facts.

Sugata Bose Madhusudan Pal But anybody can edit the Wikipedia write-up on Netaji, so far as I can gather. Why then must ardent followers of the leader not ceaselessly keep editing the objectionable portions while furnishing suitable reasons and references?

Sugata Bose Netaji in this photograph clearly looks celibate to me. His face seems tinged with the limpid light of early innocence. Who says he was otherwise with dubious carnal connections?

Sugata Bose Santanu Dutta Gupta Are you sure that Netaji will do so? Are you privy to his whereabouts and his thoughts? Can present problems stemming from the past and past perfidies running down to the present day not be tackled simultaneously? Is the country a monolithic entity that it has to run along a uni-dimemensional line? Ought not historical heresies be addressed along with redressing economic evils?

Although, I am rebutting your argument for argument's sake, I do appreciate your concern for the economic revival of our nation in attempting which hundreds of millions will be lifted out of poverty which was one of the principal concerns of Netaji as well. Our reverence to the hero would then lie in labouring for such an economic rejuvenation that will reset the country along its age-old track of material prosperity. But the history of the nation is being played with by hired historians and this cannot be allowed. Hence, the movement to resurrect the right narrative of the freedom struggle is so pertinent for the times and to this effect we are directing fractionally our efforts even as we in our individual and collective capacities are sinking in our ploughshare for the economic revival of India.

Sugata Bose Abhijit Dutt Right you are. Suresh Bose vehemently opposed it and dubbed it a Nehruvian conspiracy, hatched to diminish Netaji's moral stature and, so, erode his public image which threatened him. The question, though, remains -- why did so many other family members accept this marital tale that is so full of loopholes that seven decades of consistent effort has failed to plug?

Sugata Bose Abhijit Dutt I am afraid you are confusing me with the Harvard historian Prof. Sugata Bose, son of Dr. Sisir Bose, which I am not. I am quite another Sugata Bose of far humbler attainments and totally unconnected by way of blood-bond to Netaji's extended family.

Sugata Bose Abhijit Dutt The DNA Test of Frau Anita Brigette Pfaff will be inconclusive in terms of proving her to be Netaji's daughter even if her DNA matches with those of the members of Netaji's extended family. After all, how may it be ascertained that she was born of Netaji for sure even if the DNA matches with the family members?

Sugata Bose Abhijit Dutt Same here. My parents and my maternal grandfather never subscribed to this story.

Sugata Bose Abhijit Dutt Who knows for certain whose progeny who is? Merely the fact remains that even a DNA match would remain inconclusive evidence of Anita Brigette Pfaff being Netaji's daughter.

Sugata Bose You see, Abhijit Babu, there are many issues involved here. A simplistic solution of the DNA may be attempted but will lead to no definite conclusion thereby. 1) The Renkoji Temple was totally gutted in a terrible fire that consumed all of it in 1989, if I recall the year right. How could the said ashes and skeletal remains interned there have escaped destructive obliteration is what has to be first addressed. This is the problem facing the establishment of Netaji's air-crash death by means of DNA Test. 2) Anita's identity as Netaji's daughter would face the difficulty that I have mentioned in an earlier comment. 3) Whose ashes and bones are there in the urn at Renkoji post the devastation by fire? This is a moot question.

Sugata Bose Debankur Mukherjee Right you are. The inconclusiveness of the whole affair will fuel speculation all the more and contrary theories will abound to conflicting ends. Whether Netaji was celibate or married would then have to be determined by the other reasonable method built upon documentary evidence, should there be any of any sort to validate it. But there isn't any, we know, and this makes the marital proposition merely an imposition on the peerless patriot of unimpeachable character and defiles his image unduly. The loopholes in the roughly woven narrative are glaring and sheer callousness of approach to the great man's life will allow one to subscribe to such a denigrating departure from a sane depiction of his life and times. The man vanishes and all these perfidious profiles are added unto him. On what basis, may I ask? One question, though. What was Sarat Chandra Bose's status on this 'marital' status of Netaji? The reasoning here must be unbiased and whole and selective statements will not do.

Sugata Bose Madhusudan Pal But should we not crush them in verbal combat by positing equally intellectually certified counter-arguments? After all, intellectualism is not their private prerogative.

Sugata Bose Madhusudan Pal True, but one can continuously expose the loopholes in their argument by sustained counter-campaign. This will inevitably win over public opinion in the long run, as it has already done to a significant extent, and will gradually marginalise them and their malicious propaganda. However, for this we need to combine effectively and build up our own propaganda machinery as is the wont in all army operations. Let us say, we are also operating on behalf of the great cause but right now as a ramshackle unit. We ought to professionalise our offensive as in a military campaign and steadily advance to counter perfidious falsification of history and crush malicious maligning of the character of the great one.

Sugata Bose Madhusudan Pal Here you must give us the lead and you are already doing so. Others like Keshab Bhattacherjee and Drjayanta Choudhuri are also doing a seminal job but coordination in campaign is sadly lacking. We need to galvanise ourselves into a well-oiled machinery --- as Netaji had alluded to in his Haripura Congress Presidential Address which became the point of inflexion in our national politics thereon --- and invade the enemy terrain to destroy their citadels in corrupt fabrications. Isolated endeavours, however great in intent and objective, will prove insufficient in combating the combined might of malicious propagandists. Therefore, a like concerted effort on our part is the call of the hour, too. I hope researchers and activists will effectively combine to combat these conspiratorial forces.

Sugata Bose Debaprasad Babu, I lament, too. It was not the maestro's loss so much as it was the motherland's loss. Indeed, how lacking in appreciation of genius we have been as a nation ever since independence !

Sugata Bose Being woken up at 4 a.m. by the Azaan isn't funny, nor being deluged by the Sankeertan, both over blaring loudspeakers.

Sugata Bose Shaikh Abdul Alim has raised this issue of the Sankeertan in a comment opposing my earlier post. Have a look at it. I have only been fair to all concerned parties in expanding the scope of the discourse, although, in a rather unfair asymmetrical manner, I dare say.

Sugata Bose Sutanu Chatterjee No, no, not at all. But one has to address issues in as liberal a way as possible so as not to alienate the audience immediately, making them impervious to future reasoning on a graded basis for their gradual understanding and the erosion thereby of their intransigent stand on unreasonable religious principles. The cause of lifting humanity out of the morass of archaic absolutist injunctions of prophets and messengers is thereby served better and the larger cause of human welfare better catered to and not defeated outright as would be its fate if over-aggressive righteous stance is adopted to pulverise opposition through superior logic, clarity of conception and verbal exposition thereof. I hope to have made my point for your uncluttered understanding.

Sugata Bose I'm not a Muslim.Then why must I be subjected to the call for prayer over the loudspeaker 5times a day that upsets my work n rest?

Sugata Bose Shaikh Abdul Alim You are right in a rather restricted way, I should suppose. Both the azaan and the sankeertan are disturbing and must not be allowed to infringe, however unwittingly, upon private peace. Sankeertans may be long and may even last for 3 days at a stretch but the loudspeaker bolstered azaan goes on 365 days a year, 5 times a day, and at inconvenient hours such a dawn, as opposed to the infrequent sankeertans centring festive occasions.

Sugata Bose Indrajit Dutt Where did you discern intolerance here? Is stating the fact nowadays being considered so?

Sugata Bose Sourav Mishra Brilliant reply, Sourav. Accurate, to the point.

Sugata Bose Maharaj (Swami Ekarthananda Puri), the Vak Devi is with you evidently. What sublimity of expression we are the recipients of from you these days!

Sugata Bose Swami Ekarthananda Puri Alas, you are subtler than most (sukshmaya sukshmaha darshibhi) ! Your posts are becoming the toast of the hour and do raise it now and then to the health of our motherland.

Sugata Bose Sharmistha Chatterjee What a lovely rejoinder, befitting truly a cultivated soul, an exquisitely cultured one at that !

Sugata Bose Sharmistha Chatterjee And the days are not lost yet. You could be one such in their footsteps in the long line of sacrificial souls who have lent with their life's blood flavour to the civilisation that is the inheritance of humanity.

Sugata Bose But the data needs to be put before the public for awareness of all possible angles and the contributions of all patriotic personalities towards the great cause of our national independence. Academics suffers for want of information input otherwise.

Sugata Bose Ghosh Gorachand Why war criminals?

Sugata Bose Ghosh Gorachand So, as per your assertion, they were British allies. In which case, how were they war criminals when the victorious Allies were determining who the War Criminals were at the Nuremberg and the Tokyo Trials? Surely, the Allies would not have condemned their allies as war criminals. How would you respond to that?

Sugata Bose Ghosh Gorachand So, Gandhi and Nehru, in your opinion, ought to be considered 'war criminals' by patriotic Indians. Do I get you right?

Sugata Bose Purnando Muktidharan He knew the character of Indians well enough and, yet, he sacrificed. These were real revolutionaries after all. Their love for the motherland was not fraught with bargain of any kind, no transaction was involved in their selfless sacrifice at the altar of her freedom from alien occupation. This is the central feature that has to be understood while reflecting on the lives of these sublime souls who knew but to give, careless of return. Thus, were he spared a longer life, he would have been incarcerated for life in a British prison or executed for war crimes after being tortured during interrogation. Were he miraculously to escape such a fate, he would have to live a fugitive's life, where one wonders, though. Could he have returned to India? No way, for Nehru was the ruler and, as such, the Indian extension of the British colonial arm in 'independent' India. So, one may only contemplate inconclusively what perchance would have been his fate were he to outlive the war.

Sugata Bose @ Amitabha Sen : Why should I alter the spelling of my name, pray, for what compelling reason, under what compulsion? Simply because it happens to be identical with that of another person of eminence who is not to many people's liking? No, no, let my name abide in its own in its own pristine state and, yet, let my identity reveal through my writings in the hearts of noble souls like you. God bless you for your good feelings towards this insignificant writer of sorts who, nonetheless, must pay homage to his glorious ancestors whose poor representative he is but.

Sugata Bose Ghosh Gorachand I know. His (Radhabinod Pal's) was the only dissenting voice to the general verdict of the jury that went against the Japanese in the Tokyo War Crimes Trials, a fact that has ever endeared the Japanese to this great son of India and created the bedrock for future amity between these two great nations of Asia. 

The Japanese are a grateful nation, and, hence, their greatness and consequent rise despite the ravages of the Second World War with its nuclear holocaust that attempted to grind their civilisation to the dust. But India has, despite her seminal achievements through the ages in the diverse spheres of life, been filled with traitors of the meanest kind who have sold her freedom to foreigners. And to this long list of traitors down the historical timeline belong the latest order of political traitors who have collaborated with the British to set the seal on the doom of India that led to a partitioned dominion status masquerading as independence. Gratitude there is none for the redoubtable revolutionaries who bled to free us and glorification there is ample for the ones who destroyed the hopes and aspirations of the revolutionaries for a real resurgent unified India in complicity with the British, albeit in a covert cunning way.

Sugata Bose Debkanti Moitra Srish Ghosh eventually committed suicide, so far as I can gather, being unable to cope with the terrible torment suffered lifelong as a revolutionary.

Sugata Bose But was not Rash Behari Bose the founder of the Japanese wing of the Hindu Mahasabha? Is this not explicit in the essay of Kajal Mukherjee? Do you contest the contention?

Sugata Bose Bravo, Diganta ! Moving, gripping description covering a vast expanse of the Mahatma's career. You have done it well to pay an unbiased homage to the leader on his sesquicentennial year of advent. Looking forward to more such informative essays on other leaders as well.

Sugata Bose Brilliant, to make an understatement, Diganta ! There is so much to learn from this piece that one must read and refer to the original texts to arrive at a fuller appreciation and understanding of the shades and nuances involved here regarding the many facets highlighted of India's protracted struggle for freedom, and that, too, from parallel perspectives, sympathetic and antipathetic. I fail to restrain my admiration of this young man quite who is steeped in the spirit and culture of the great man he idealises as the Pole Star of his life.

Sugata Bose Ghosh Gorachand, you have in a comment posted above stated thus : ''May be Leela Roy had love affairs with Netaji, I guess.'' I would give you a friendly suggestion that you better guard your words, henceforth. Bandying about such aspersions about revolutionaries of impeccable demeanour and unimpeachable character like Leela Roy and Netaji, purely on the basis of guess work, does not become a gentleman, least of all someone who claims to be a well-researched writer on Netaji. Such wild verbal volleys launched against revolutionaries of hallowed memory without credible evidence is improper, to say the least, and calls for the offender to desist from such undesirable verbal indulgence in future. It is an insult to the revolutionaries concerned, their countless devotees, the nation itself and its priceless heritage of cultured discourse. How could you possibly entertain such unfounded thoughts, for it does appear to this writer that you do not have any evidence to support your conjecture? It clearly shows one thing, that habitually insulting Gandhiji and sparing him not even on his sesquicentennial birth anniversary does lead the loose-tongued one then, wittingly or unwittingly, to let loose his linguistic lapses on the one he, perhaps, adores as well. Such, my friend, Ghosh Gorachand, is the human predicament, and it is in this light, perhaps, that our scriptures have advocated restraint of speech in human interaction. Anyhow, I hope good sense will prevail and you will understand the import of what I have hereby stated by way of defence of the great ones whom you have somewhat loosely slandered. My good wishes to you, amicable feelings and a request that you read more before you venture to throw in your despicable diatribes against the great sons and daughters of revolutionary India.

Sugata Bose यतिराज पुरी Bravo, Maharaj! That's like a true man of God, to articulate the truth and nothing but the truth.

Sugata Bose यतिराज पुरी Maharaj, do join the NETAJI group administered by me and share this tremendous observation on Netaji's contribution and the Mahatma's failure despite all sincere but impractical effort made.

Sugata Bose : @Kaunteya Ghosh -- Indeed, in many respects he was and in many other respects Hitler was the worse of the two, devils fighting for supremacy in the perpetration of evil. Churchill was the cunning one, Hitler the braver and the one with greater idealism even in evil. So, I agree with your perception, the perspective from which you are airing your view.

Sugata Bose Foolish and unbecoming of a Mahatma who, though, bore the honorific in name only and not quite by dint of merit or attribute, an address popularised by the admiring poet whose sensibilities and expression thereof could not restrain him from attaching the title thus which, as we now understand, does unwittingly serve to cover much of the addressee's lapses in character and deliberate blunders in national affairs. Gandhi never would allow Hindus to strike out in self-defence and always attempted his utmost to keep their retaliation in check even as he had nothing whatsoever to say to the Muslims along similar lines to restrain them likewise. For he well knew that his Mahatma status would serve him well to keep his hold on the Hindus but would be an abysmal failure when it came to countering the theological doctrine of the Islamic jihad, practised in whatever hue or form and in whatsoever context. His puerile assertions did work terribly against the interests of the Hindus, their right to self-preservation, as we witness in the Noakhali riots where Hindus were slaughtered indiscriminately and the honour of their womenfolk ravaged to the point when the Mahatma in all his manifest weakness acceded to the perfidious demand of Jinnah to partition the motherland. That much for the Mahatma's morals and no more. The intelligent will be able to decipher this piece of political hieroglyphic and see through the Mahatma's means, motivations and machinations, the trinity corrupting so often the course of the movement for freedom. Let none anymore be fooled by these simplistic aphorisms of peace and non-violence, of passive resistance and active non-cooperation against the revolutionaries that the Mahatma practised throughout his political tenure from 1917 to 1948 that set the seal of much of India's doom. It is time to wake up from this seven decade-old slumber, to see things in crystal-clear light and arrive at one's own conclusions as the validity or invalidity of the patriarch's puerile politics oblivious of the exigencies that realpolitik enforces on a nation for its very survival and preservation.

Sugata Bose Wonderfully written. Simply a lucid read.

Sugata Bose Swami Sampurnananda Good if it is so but complacency is dangerous and portentous of future decadence as the compounded effect of the degeneration already evident. Swami Nityaswarupananda (Chintaharan Maharaj), Holy Mother's disciple and the architect of The Ramakrishna Mission Institute of Culture, had warned of this decadence in the late 1980s and had even recorded his critical observations in his booklet entitled 'Back to Vivekananda' which was summarily withdrawn from circulation by the Mission authorities then. In it one clearly sees the current trends articulated in forthright terms by the far-sighted octogenarian monk. He was then not given ample audience by the authorities and it is a pity that his prophesies and insights are being proven right today in a more magnified form than then when the saplings had but shown their faces above the rough soil of decadence. Thus, rectification in all humility is the call of the hour rather than the attempted intellectual cover-up on attitudes and activities that require reform without further delay.

Sugata Bose यतिराज पुरी But this nation has been progressively reduced in land area of its presence and pronounced influence over the last 2000 years of Christian and Mohammedan domination. The worst fate suffered was in 1947 when India, integrated and whole, thus far, suffered Partition with its horrendous immediate and long-lasting effects.

Indian regional influence has been progressively reduced over the last two millenia and the Sanatan Dharma, whose benediction was showered over the large part of the then discovered world, has been relegated today to the partitioned landmass of India primarily with daily inroads being made into its citadels by aggressive proselytising by Islam and Christianity. This is where we are today and this is why we must heed Vivekananda and correctly interpret him as we combine forces to save India and its age-old Hindu culture.

Sugata Bose This is exactly the reason why Swami Sankarananda was a trifle perplexed about Gandhiji's supposed attainment of the ideal of non-violence, when the sage heard that the Mahatma had been assassinated by Narhuram Godse. Sankaranandaji had said that the Hindu scriptures have pronounced that even ferocious animals must lose their wildness and be calm before one who has attained to perfect non-violence. Then how was it possible for Mahatmaji to die at the hands of an assassin?

Sugata Bose Gabheer manusher gabheer chinta. Ki hote parto uni svadheen Bharater karnadhaar hole! Dhanyabaad, Debaprasad Babu!

Sugata Bose Diganta Sengupta I think, Diganta, the Vivekananda connection in this reference is more by way of subliminal influence than an apparent one in direct traceable terms. The Vivekananda influence is implicit in Netaji in places but the temptation to overemphasise it has been the bane often which tends to take away the glory that Netaji himself was. In this particular address, I guess, I have unwittingly been prey to that temptation to give Vivekananda the credit for the thought content that poured forth from Netaji's lips. No, it was only by way of passing reference that I intended to bring in Vivekananda as forming the subterranean current of Netaji's thoughts. If in effect it has misrepresented the fact, the fault lies with me and me alone. Netaji in his heyday as Supreme Commander of the INA and the Head of the Provisional Government of Free India was himself an institution and his thoughts were original in every way, notwithstanding the Vivekananda influence of his early days that had helped shape his conceptions about life and reality and their evolving resolutions thereof. Vivekananda was an original man and no less original was Netaji. The brilliance of the Tokyo address is, thus, entirely due to the original thinking of Netaji over and above the formative influence of Vivekananda.

Sugata Bose DrMita Chakraborty I hope you do not confuse me with my namesake, Dr. Sugata Bose, Gardiner Professor of History, Harvard University and erstwhile TMC MP. This I state by way of clarification of self-identity as this is a common misconception about me. I am not he for sure, am unrelated to Netaji's extended family by blood-bond or DNA linkage, and am quite another Sugata Bose of a humbler lineage and far more modest attainments, if any, in life. Your appreciative thanksgiving, though, is touching and I heartily accept it in case it was directed to me and not my eminent namesake. God bless you!

Sugata Bose Ghosh Gorachand Thanks. Will look up the link.

Sugata Bose @Gorachand Ghosh : Read up as per your suggestion. But is the book not available in hard copy?

Sugata Bose Ghosh Gorachand That will be grand then when the reprint comes out. Thanks for the mobile number of your cousin. I shall contact him when the occasion arises. Meanwhile, I hope you do not confuse me with my namesake, Dr. Sugata Bose, Gardiner Professor of History, Harvard University, and erstwhile TMC MP. This I state by way of clarification of self-identity for this is a common misconception about me. I am not he for sure, am unrelated to Netaji's extended family by blood-bond or DNA linkage, and am quite another Sugata Bose of a humbler lineage and far more modest attainments, if any, in life. You, however, live in the periphery of my online affections for you are yet to be befriended by me formally. Looking forward to more fruitful interactions and my advance good wishes for a rip-roaring success for your book due to be delivered in its updated hard copy edition and marketed by Amazon. Looking forward to reading it. God bless you in all your future endeavours!

Sugata Bose @Gorachand Ghosh : Also, I request you to join the group NETAJI administered by me and to participate in the deliberations on Netaji there. Your observations will get wider exposure and more befitting rebuttals sometimes.

Sugata Bose No. Invention can come from fantasy far-fetched but living out the reality is a different ball-game altogether. Hence, the necessity of establishing the historical validity of mythological characters by way of pursuit of truth phenomenal. Between the conception of a great truth in intellectual terms and its transcription in real life there is a gulf that is so wide that it cannot be discounted. Hence, I am not in agreement with Thakur's proposition in this regard, although, I do understand the depth-import of the Master's line of thinking hither.

Sugata Bose Thank you for bearing with me and reading through the write-up. Please support the cause in this way. That will inspire us.

Sugata Bose Comal Mahadevan Amrtheswaran You are mistaken. I am another Sugata Bose unconnected to Netaji's extended family, am completely an apolitical person and, hence, powerless that way to administer alterations to the narrative that has ruined India's hopes.

Sugata Bose Swami Ashrayanandaji Maharaj Unclear. Could not follow the drift of your comment. If you would deem to clarify, it will help me understand the import of you statement.

Sugata Bose Aritra Dutta Okay. But you must attribute the name of the author, that is, myself.

Sugata Bose Diganta Sengupta Does that mean one is to abuse Mother Teresa as is the wont in certain quarters these days out of a sense of their supposed superior understanding of the characteristic traits of the Catholic nun of immortal glory?

Sugata Bose Diganta Sengupta Read Sister Nivedita's Complete Works in that case for a comprehensive understanding of her thoughts. Read up all biographical studies of her as well to know about her seminal contributions in the diverse fields of human endeavour.

Sugata Bose Satyendra Singh No one is putting them up against each other. This post is in response to another post on Sister Nivedita in which offensive comments against Mother Teresa were unnecessarily made by someone. Evidently, you are unaware of this and are thus barging in here with your quite uncalled for offensive in apparent defence of the two seminal figures of hallowed memory. Better knowledge of facts would demand closer following of Facebook posts for which many have neither time nor occasion to spare but are, nonetheless, casually capable of filling in blank spaces of their leisurely hours in passing coarse comments.

Sugata Bose Satyendra Singh And so it shall be for pertinent such comparisons are in the historical context and in civil terms. However, your stance is an old one about which we are well acquainted. So, it is but natural that following the Law of Inertia we should be periodically made freshly aware of it in much the same manner as our posts prop up periodically in your mental horizon through engagement online.

Sugata Bose Madhusudan Pal How can you label Mother Teresa thus even if she has had her compulsions of proselytising to a degree? Have you met her? Have you interacted with her? How can such loose cannon be released on such a seminal spiritual personality even if she has had some of her theological weaknesses? Is this our Indian tradition of casting aspersions on enlightened beings? Are not the pure the objects of veneration of Indians traditionally and rightly so? Ponder deep before you come to conclusions as corrosive as your diatribe makes it apparent and rectify verbal course and the processes of thinking accordingly.

Sugata Bose Debaprasad Bhattacharya How could you stoop to this level of agreement with an allegation as profane as the one cited above?

Sugata Bose Ghosh Gorachand Was he really a British agent? Do you have any concrete documentary evidence to prove it? If you have, please provide it. It will be a sensational revelation. Mere opinion will not do for they are opinions after all all and nothing more in the line of substantive evidence that can establish the stated theory.

Sugata Bose Madhusudan Pal Not quite. This question of being a British agent does not seem remotely apparent. Hence, it cannot be unquestioningly accepted as gospel truth. Truth to be categorically established needs greater intellectual rigour than is afforded by clamorous surface seekers and protagonists of such. Evidence of some sort is ever the criterion that any proposition in all sanity demands.

Sugata Bose Madhusudan Pal Then reserve your corrosive unproven assertions for your next life as well.

Sugata Bose Arundhati Bhattacharya Read that he wishes to communicate by self-admission in his next life on Facebook, and then reserve your comment for me.

Sugata Bose Arundhati Bhattacharya Are you puerile or perverse that you do not see reason? Stop barging in and making unwarranted remarks.

Sugata Bose Arundhati Bhattacharya There is no discussion which you are addressing. Having failed to apprehend the import of what I have said in response to a comment by Dr. Madhusudan Pal, you are merely exhibiting your ignorance of the context of the aforesaid comment by me in response to his and thereby making a mockery of the sanity of civil discussion. Hence, it is you who have started this unsavoury verbal exchange and, therefore, it is you who ought to forthwith restrain yourself from further exhibition of puerile talk.

Sugata Bose Arundhati Bhattacharya Read through the original comment thread with Dr. Madhusudan Pal and your enlightenment will be complete. It seems all your misgivings are founded on the fractional latter study of this comment thread here. The origins investigated, your misconceptions will be clarified. Therefore, without further ado, sink in your mind to the discovery of the roots of this dialogue and come to conclusive terms. In future as well, such prudence will be well worth observing to safeguard yourself against such hasty undue and utterly undeserving inferences about others' attitudes and intentions.

Sugata Bose Arundhati Bhattacharya I need to excommunicate you as administrator of this group for your obvious violation of the terms of civility.

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