Wednesday, 16 October 2024

COMMENTS GALORE ... 67


COMMENTS GALORE ... 67


Sugata Bose @Prakash Gupta: I really appreciate your relentless campaigning on behalf of the Hindus. All strength and support to the cause of defence of the Hindus and the Sanatan Dharma. 🕉


Sugata Bose @Surajit Ghosh : Those were not in West Bengal. We are located in West Bengal and, hence, we are speaking about the anarchy here. The cases elsewhere are extraneous in this regard and form the matter of a separate discussion at the national level. We must not confuse the two nor conflate matters thereby. In a like manner mentioning Marxist misrule and concerned crime at different dates during their 34 year tenure is also extraneous as we are discussing the anarchy we are suffering right now under this regime. In a wider discussion everything may come but in a focussed one we must concentrate on the crimes now being perpetrated and those that have been in the recent or near recent past which bear similar signs of horror followed by attempted cover-up and absence of due justice owing to tampering of evidence and administrative interference with the process. There has been gross maladministration owing to criminalisation of politics and with corrupt people at the helm of affairs, we are reaping its toxic harvest in due course.


As regards your observation on the national scene, it is absolutely correct that there have been cases galore where other provinces and even the Centre are culpable as well in this regard and ought to be taken to account, but, as I said, conflating issues is no way to solving malicious national and regional problems, and cases must be considered with due emphasis on their isolated and connected content. 


Shubha Bijoya! 🕉 


Sugata Bose @YouTube [Advaita Ashrama---Swami Shuddhidananda] : Maharaj, when you speak Hindi, kindly take care to doing it perfectly without interspersing speech with Urdu words. This very linguistic mixture is proof of our partially lost identity, courtesy the Islamic invasion. 🕉


Sugata Bose @Subhrajyoti Bhowmick : āĻĒ্āĻ°āĻļ্āĻ¨েāĻ° āĻĒāĻ°িāĻŦāĻ°্āĻ¤ে āĻĒ্āĻ°āĻļ্āĻ¨āĻ•āĻ°্āĻ¤াāĻ° āĻĒ্āĻ°āĻ¤িāĻ•াāĻ°েāĻ° āĻĒ্āĻ°āĻ¸্āĻ¤াāĻŦāĻĒেāĻļ |


Sugata Bose @Debaprasad Bhattacharya : Perfectly put it. This comment needs to be saved and continuously put up against all such deflectors of the state of affairs in West Bengal who craftily cite instances elsewhere to conceal the crimes galore here, especially of the administration's role in covering up such crime, a well-documented fact now not unknown to many.


Sugata Bose @Kunal Ghosh : Distasteful observation in perverse poetic patois.


Sugata Bose @Prakash Gupta : But how is that to be achieved? The permeation of Islam has been a slow and steady process over a millennium till it has by now struck deep roots over vast populations in the subcontinent as well as in India post Partition. Approximately 220 million Muslims stay in India with deep allegiance to their faith. Granted that Islam is antithetical to Sanatan civilisation and culture, separatist in its intent and ultimately destructive, how on earth may we seek riddance of it, now that it is embedded so deep in our social fabric? 


The case of China is different. With an authoritarian governmental set up and a tiny percentage of its population as Muslins (reference is to Xinjiang's Turkic Uyghur Muslims numbering 25 million out of a total of 1420 million Chinese which is about 1.8% in the gross) under total domination in concentration camps or in home surveillance, the problem there has been brutally tackled. 


Such a solution cannot be in India where a population of 220 million Muslims out of 1450 million Indians overall makes the former a significantly larger percentage (15%). Their religion, culture and lifestyle are inseparable. How on earth may this entire structural set-up be overhauled and replaced unless the highly improbable secularisation process of Muslim society takes place over centuries as in the case of European Christianity? But that was a bloody process, a protracted struggle, the movement of scientific enlightenment that has historically in special circumstances been once possible and cannot be repeated, I guess, in today's world. 


The problem was pondered by Swami Vivekananda and he could only foresee the coexistence of these two antithetical groups through gradual evolution into an integrated body politic that would be the future India with 'Vedanta brain and Islam body'. What he thereby implied may be elaborated on, debated, discussed, accepted and rejected in parts but cannot be conceived clearly right away, for he did not delineate the details of his cryptic observation. We may contemplate on and conjecture about its core content but cannot quite see how things will work out to that effect except to make allowance for future historical developments in the progressive modern man. 


Right now the opposite is true, though, with politicians raking up differences further to secure vote-bank advantages much to the debilitation of the Hindus and the insecurity of the Sanatan civilisation. Further elaboration in this regard I will make on my profile wall in future. 


Commendations, though, on your sustained campaigning but solutions are necessary as well instead of mere activism which latter activity is an imperative as well, though. Vande Mataram! 🕉 Hindu!


Sugata Bose @Debaprasad Bhattacharya : But the Swami cannot name the person (Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi) or the ideology (Islam) for all his oratorical Shakti Puja which surely leaves much (of courage) to be desired.


Sugata Bose @Debaprasad Bhattacharya : But Swami Shuddhidananda cannot even name the person (Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi) or the ideology (Islam) for all his oratorical Shakti Puja which surely leaves much (of courage) to be desired, nor can he offer any concrete suggestions, means whereby the Hindu polity may be united and strengthened thereby and otherwise. It is so much of a general talk that is satisfying for the hour but of no avail thence. The problem remains even theoretically unsolved therefore, leave aside its proper potential practicalisation. 🕉


Sugata Bose @Debaprasad Bhattacharya : To study in Sanskrit would require Hindus to learn the language which is denied them these days in most schools and where in the odd school such a facility is there, most Hindus, induced by a greater cultural ignorance and by some strange notion that Sanskrit is of no utility in a modern commercial world, choose not to opt for the Devabhāshā. Hence, as of now till the situation changes, the only option is to study the scriptural texts in the vernacular or in English and, of course, with the help of authorised commentaries like those of Shankara, Ramanuja, Madhva, Madhusudan Saraswati and the like.


Sugata Bose @Shubhranshu Mohan Banerji : Thank you for pointing out the spelling error. Rectified it. Please keep pointing out such errors in future as well. It helps me to learn as well as keep my posts free of such errors.


Sugata Bose @Suraj Mukherjee : āĻ•ি āĻ†āĻ° āĻ•āĻ°ে ? āĻĻāĻ•্āĻˇিāĻŖāĻĻিāĻ•āĻŸা āĻ¤ো āĻ¤ৃāĻŖāĻŽূāĻ˛ āĻĻāĻ•্āĻˇিāĻŖা āĻ¨িāĻ¤ে āĻ¨িāĻ¤ে āĻĒুāĻ°োāĻĒুāĻ°ি āĻ…āĻ§িāĻ•াāĻ° āĻ•āĻ°ে āĻŦāĻ¸েāĻ›ে, āĻ¨া ? āĻ¤াāĻ‡ āĻŦাāĻ•িāĻ°া āĻŦাঁāĻĻিāĻ•েāĻ‡ āĻ াāĻ¸াāĻ াāĻ¸ি āĻ•āĻ°ে āĻ¯াāĻ¤্āĻ°াāĻĒāĻĨে | āĻ¸াāĻ§াāĻ°āĻŖেāĻ“ āĻ¤াāĻ‡ āĻŦাāĻŽেāĻ¤েāĻ‡ āĻŦাঁāĻ§া | āĻ¤āĻŦে āĻŦাāĻŽেāĻ°া āĻ•িāĻ¨্āĻ¤ু āĻŦাāĻŽāĻĒāĻ¨্āĻĨী, āĻŦাāĻŽাāĻĒāĻ¨্āĻĨী āĻ¨ā§Ÿ | āĻ¸ে āĻ¤ো āĻ°াāĻŽেāĻ°া |


Sugata Bose @Nilanjana Chakraborty :  Don't weep. Change it. Manhood, not tears, are needed. Even the emoji ought to reflect it. What we need is spine, and tears do not develop it.


Sugata Bose @YouTube [Advaita Ashrama---Swami Shuddhidananda] : Old hackneyed stuff, nothing original! We know what Swamiji had said. What we need to know is what the speaker himself thinks. Let him not quote from Swamiji. Swamiji disliked quotations. Let the speaker articulate his own original views instead of reiterating Swamiji's statements. Swamiji had exhorted the disciples of Sri Ramakrishna to be original like the Master himself was, and had also said that few in history had been original. Most were copiers of others' thoughts. Hence, the Ramakrishna monks must try to be original. For this, deep scholarship, spiritual perception and training are necessary. Also, they must speak from the depths of their souls, courage of conviction ringing forth in their voice. Insincerity is easily discernible in those who preach what they do not practise. This is the gist of my submission. 🕉


Sugata Bose @Sameer Banik : And her (Mamata Banerjee's) comrades-in -sticks (June Maliya and Rachana Banerjee doing dāndiya with the Chief Minister) here (at the Durga Puja Carnival, 2024) are the epitome of cultural sensitivity as well!


Sugata Bose @Nilanjana Chakraborty : Your artistic sense is par excellence and contribution to culture seminal. You'll reap the rewards in time. Right now keep up the good work along fresher lines of creative thinking while remaining rooted in classical culture.


Sugata Bose @Pkc Chowdhuree : The problem is that cultured political Bengal has died owing to the passage of time. What remains is demographic residue that has taken over and perpetuates hold on power through demographic transition, both Islamic and proletariat. The Shudra Yuga is on and this is in lesser or greater degree evident everywhere across the world in terms of cultural degradation, commercial exploitation and the lowering of human quality in general along with the rise in the standard of living for the poor. However, in this cultural degeneration lies the essence of the problem as it owes its existence to the outnumbering of the educated-cultured class by the proletariat of little culture. This is purely an unavoidable demographic problem which can best be minimised, though not much, by securing for the masses an efficient system of culture-oriented education. Alas, even that will not work as demographic transition to the lower levels will be impossible to combat in the short run but hopefully will even out with the passage of centuries and millenia as our scriptures in their representation of the cyclical flow of time that can be demarcated as Ages (Yugas--Satya, Tretā, Dvāpar, Kali) have stated!


So far as more mundane realities in Bengal are concerned, the Bengali bhadralok has been alienated from active political life owing to the criminalisation of politics. The same holds true elsewhere in India as well. 44% of the Parliamentarians are alleged to have criminal cases against them. The sad reflection holds true for West Bengal as well, not in the sameness of numbers though but in kind. The bhadralok, the leaders of erstwhile Bengal, now choose to keep away from active politics and concern themselves in pursuing their careers instead. Thus, there is no real intellectual class left in Bengal who will voice protest or stage a political movement to restore sanity in the province. The so-called intellectuals are hardly men of merit, mere title-holders to the effect, many of whom are on the payroll of the ruling dispensation, enjoying well-paid positions in the government-run cultural bodies and institutions. They have sold soul for silver like Judas to the Romans. At any rate the best of Bengal have already left the land and the rest are leaving. Bengal is being rendered a desert zone in both economic and civilisational sense by deliberate mischief played by parties across the political spectrum. In this scenario of the progressive Islamisation of West Bengal through specific population spurt and unchecked illegal immigration from Bangladesh, the entire character of Bengal is changing. We hear the azān five times a day, giving sensitive souls like me the impression that we are living in an Islamic state. This is but the tip of the iceberg but is portentous of a precipitous fall that awaits Bengal. Unless there is a massive civilisational revival along Sanatan lines---not pseudo-Hindutva lines, let me make it clear---there is no hope for Bengal. 


In 1986 Rajiv Gandhi had called Calcutta a dying city, a statement that had raised a lot of resistive dust those days. Today, West Bengal is a dying state and is in a non-functional Intensive Care Unit (ICU), for even the corrupt Health System has broken down. Destiny alone knows when Bengal will die but we, residents of our motherland, will never forsake her and will war on with kshatriya valour to save her from barbaric hands. Vande Mataram! 🕉


Sugata Bose @Pkc Chowdhuree : I wonder how the so-called educated Bengali could say, "Yes, yes, yes," time and again for over a decade? So shameless! 


[I have replicated your response with due punctuation. Forgive me my indulgence thus. But this was to highlight a specific cultural point.


This used to be the refined representation of thought, perfectly punctuated, in erstwhile Bengal. Now you see where the degeneration, even linguistic, has crept in. It is commonplace to be careless even in articulate criticism. But the content of your criticism despite its hurried carelessness carries weight to which I have in my earlier comment responded elaborately, albeit a trifle too deeply, which may not be satisfying to minds expecting surface solutions as is the wont these days in an age of needless hurry caused by ceaseless rupturing of concentration owing to the relentless running after the delight of desire.


Your original response was as follows:

"I Wonder How So Called Educated Bengal Could Say Yes Yes Yes Time & Again for Over A Decade ? SO SHAMELESS."]


Sugata Bose @Pkc Chowdhuree : But why are you so unpunctuated in every line of your observations? Is it itself not a vlear indicator of the literary and cultural decline of Bengal to which you are happily contributing? Why can you not be more accurate in your representation of your thoughts in words? If this is the general order of execution in any thing in the world, how can you expect the world to improve in any sense? I have not attempted to exhibit my knowledge of grammar in any sense but have merely highlighted an instance in your writing which is symptomatic of the general decadence. We ought to criticise but we ought to do so in a manner that is free from undue representative flaws. As regards the response to your earliest query, I have responded in detail which you evidently overlooked while responding to my secondary observation on your ill-punctuated comment.


Sugata Bose @Bijoy Chakraborty : No, no, my observation here is on the general culture of television nocturnal debates.


Sugata Bose @Pkc Chowdhuree : I have to since your capitals are roaming everywhere breaking all traffic rules. Strange it is that you feel the small letter is more or less inessential in a piece of writing. If this be management of words, I pity the students who are subjected to such dimensional disaster, perhaps of a different order. Such carelessness in writing is certainly not to be deemed worthy in one who by self-submission professes knowledge to other worthies.


Sugata Bose @Hemanand Chengalath : You speak of the common man's unawareness of AI editing tools as being the cause of their punctuation errors in online writing. But NI (Natural Intelligence) editing tools ought to be enough in rendering the said service.


Sugata Bose @Satyanand Bhattacharjee : Vidyāsāgar, iconic renaissance figure and co-founder of our vernacular prose along with Rammohun of earlier eminence, would have differed, perhaps, in his observation in this regard, I dare say. To shift the timely gear, the said lapses are alright in a near-nonagenarian like you but unforgivable in others of fresher blood who indulge in such indiscretion out of sheer disregard for linguistic order and a wholesale careless attitude, traits in dual composition not quite wholesome for a country in her prime of supposed reemergence as a world power. Such illegal trafficking of punctuation and utter lawlessness in linguistic presentation surely do not augur well for a people who pride in being preceptor to the world. 🕉


Sugata Bose @Hemanand Chengalath : These lapses are common, almost universal occurrences in online writing. Hence, my observation in this regard. Certainly, all are not illiterate. Highly literate persons, PhDs, are also so careless. This is everywhere evident if you just care to see it. It is abounding everywhere and cannot be thus justified.

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