Sunday 20 August 2017

AN ONGOING CONVERSATION WITH NARAYANAN GANDHI ... 2


Narayanan Gandhi There have been witnesses in Berlin who have seen Subhas Bose living with Emiley in a luxury bungalow there. I prefer to believe they were married couple than to surmise they were live-in couple. So marriage is not a myth. Those who say so, have to explain Qs about their being seen living together.

Narayanan Gandhi Soon, according to historian Romain Hayes, "the (German) Foreign Office procured a luxurious residence for (Bose) along with a butler, cook, gardener, and an SS-chauffeured car. Emilie Schenkl moved in openly with him. The Germans, aware of the nature of the relationship, refrained from any involvement."[3] However, most of the staff in the Special Bureau for India, which had been set up to aid Bose, did not get along with Emilie.[8] In particular Adam von Trott, Alexander Werth and Freda Kretschemer, according to historian Leonard A. Gordon, "appear to have disliked her intensely. They believed that she and Bose were not married and that she was using her liaison with Bose to live an especially comfortable life during the hard times of war" and that differences were compounded by issues of class.[8] In November 1942, Schenkl gave birth to their daughter. In February 1943,

Narayanan Gandhi Adam von Trott, Alexander Werth and Freda Kretschemer plus Nambiar had seen Subhas Bose living with Emiley

Rajyashree Chaudhuri Narayanan Gandhi stop narrating your tales of fantasy without documents proving it. This is not a place for casual gossip of tea and snacks. I have noticed that whether you have logic or not you force people to know about your preconceived notions. Anything you do not believe is wrong and anything you believe is right. This is not a forum for storytellers. Nambiar never accepted that he ever knew of any relations ,neither was he the priest to their Hindu Marriage ceremony. What are you saying? You think you know everything ? You think you are an expert on the issue. Access records and original documents. Your references are all in the scanner of doubts and authenticity. There is no marriage certificate, no marriage photo, no marriage witness. None can force people to think that Netaji Bose married Frau Schenkl. Dr. Anita Pfaff's Birth Certificate doesnot contain Netaji Bose's name as father. So none can force people to think Dr. Anita Pfaff is the daughter of Netaji Bose. So please end your illogical story telling.

Narayanan Gandhi Rajyashree Chaudhuri, Stop narrating your tales of conspiracy with no documents or unverified documents. This is not a place for casual gossip but a place of academic discussion over your own tea and snacks. I have always noticed that you have no logic but force people to gang up with your ulteriorly motivated agenda.

Narayanan Gandhi Rajyashree Chaudhuri, I always believe in truth and don't believe in lies. This is not a forum for mystery mongers like you.

Narayanan Gandhi Rajyashree Chaudhuri, Nambiar saw Bose and Anita living together but said he didn't remember or witness their marriage.

Narayanan Gandhi Rajyashree Chaudhuri Stop behaving as if you know everything. For living together with a woman whom he loves Subhas Bose didn't need any document. They had a private Hindu marriage.

Narayanan Gandhi Rajyashree Chaudhuri, So please end your illogical mystery mongering.

Rajyashree Chaudhuri Narayanan Gandhi I always put up documents. You don't. You are a notorious jerk polluting healthy discussions. You are an implant who is polluting the discussions with imposed conclusions and not a single government approved link. Go contest Austrian Government and ask them to issue a Birth certificate with Netaji name. Go to the Germans and ask them for a marriage certificate and open your polluted mouth. Enough s enough. Stop spreading lies. Anyone spreading lies is a pollutant n the movement. You are neither kin, nor close aide nor any researcher. So stop your nonsense. Your belief is for u to believe until u produce 4 documents- marriage certificate of Netaji, Birth Certificate of Dr. Anita with Netaji's name in it and a photo of Netaji new born Anita and Emilie or Netaji -Emilie marriage photo.I f you have none don't dare to write a word about it. We are contesting all such liars.

Narayanan Gandhi Rajyashree Chaudhury, the stink you make when speak in an in uncouth way like this pollutes the whole internet. I have quoted AM Nair, you refuse to read. I quoted Wikipedia about Mrs. Subhas Bose and you cannot. counter. You are a loser and badmouth when you find you have no answer. Grow up, please !

Sugata Bose Narayanan Gandhi, you have been maligning Netaji in every forum for quite some time now. Your game is up and I, as administrator, think it proper to take appropriate action against you for such vilification of the nation's greatest and purest patriot. Hence, I am now going to do the needful to maintain the sanity and sanctity of this platform.

Narayanan Gandhi Sugata Bose the phrase barking up the wrong tree comes to my mind. One request though, please message me my posts, if you decide to delete any. I put my life blood to post something in these discussions and it hurts if I find I am deleted and I do not have a copy of it.

Sugata Bose It is your self-duty, Narayanan Gandhi, to first save your posts and comments before posting them. It is neither my duty to do so nor may I always remember to carry out your bidding in the melee of work. Moreover, you must maintain a modicum of moderation in maligning Netaji for this is expected of even a die-hard opponent of the hero, and in your case for sure, for you profess to be some sort of an admirer of our leader who you consider as flawed fatally in terms of historic blunders which, to your mind, he had made. Casting calumny on Netaji as you cleverly do, denigrating him in rank and honour as per your whim, you nonetheless, must realise that even your malefic comments may confuse public opinion about contentious issues of the warrior-prophet's life even though such confusion has otherwise been more or less dispelled, thanks to the tireless work of researchers and scholars who have unearthed information about Netaji's life and debunked many a ludicrous tale about the patriot premier. It is, thus, in the fitness of things that you desist from your wilful vilification of Netaji, for you are simply wasting your own time and everybody else's time in engaging others in such fruitless deliberation for some perverse satisfaction of yours as characterises the coward with little love for the nation or for lofty human ideals. Better far will be for you to devote your substantial imagination and talent in the field of genuine creative arts instead of wasting your precious human life chasing wild geese. I leave you to consider these cogitations of mine and chart out your future course of action, for our Charter remains the upholding of the honour of our foremost freedom fighter and the rooting out of all elements that spread vile rumours about him based on fabrication and fantasy without evidence to authenticate their claims. If you, Narayanan Gandhi, come clean as to your intentions and as to what your motivations are, it will become apparent to all as to what holy cause you espouse by your rancorous attitude towards Netaji, in which case you will, I hope, be spared of the charge as being an implant of dubious agencies tending to foul up our holy work. I leave it your own good judgement and wait on you for your civil response.

Narayanan Gandhi My recent posts have been about Mrs. Subhas Bose. The family accepts her. I have quoted the names of eye witnesses who have seen Subhas and Mrs. Emiley Bose living together. Rajyashree Chaudhury says they didn't marry. Logic then is they lived together without marrying. So I don't accept Rajyashree's perverted assertion which is not accepted by most Subhas Bose kin. So Sugata Bose you must really admonish Rajyashree's cranky assertions and ask her to either disprove the eye witnesses I have quoted or keep her trap shut. I can't always save my posts, so in good faith I request you to at least save them somewhere and message them to me at your leisure. I didn't do much saving in your group postings but was careful when posting in Anuj Dhar's group, since I have a better opinion of your group.

Sugata Bose Okay, Narayanan Gandhi, I will save your posts and comments before I delete them in case. I hardly ever delete, though. But sometimes I do not approve certain posts in which case I do not save them. Hence, I suggest that you first post them on your profile wall before posting them in my groups. At any rate I do appreciate the labour that goes into writing well-informed or misinformed posts as the case may be and I shall surely try and prevent interesting and often impressive data on Netaji and allied subjects from being lost thus. Rest assured about that. You have my word on it.

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