COMMENTS GALORE ... 78
COMMENTS GALORE ... 78
Sugata Bose @Imtiaz Mahmood : You are too good with words and their subtle nuances and cross-references.
Sugata Bose @Sreekanth Madhavan : Never. Manipulation of words of the original song dedicated to Shree Ram.
Sugata Bose @Zahid Mollah : Yes, to know about true Islam and not nurse imaginary Hindu notions of universality about it.
Sugata Bose @Priyadarshi Gupta : Such ignorance will cause greater harm. Living in a fool's paradise becomes the Hindu of little knowledge of Islamic scriptures and greater indolence regarding knowing about it. There is nothing disharmonious about the post but an exhortation to read and then arrive at an informed conclusion about Islam. You have in the past as well harboured such uninformed notions and desisted from being better informed about Islam. People like you nurse notions simply on imagination of Islamic universality when the reverse is true whose toxic fruit was the murderous mutilation of our beloved motherland. I do not like to engage in conversation with people who draw conclusions about issues based on no real knowledge of them and yet feel entitled to advise those like us who are have laboriously learnt about the textual tenets of Islam and its bloody history ever since inception. Please read and then argue, not before.
P.S. As regards the harmony factor, Islam does not endorse it but Hinduism does. So, it is a one-way traffic and that can never succeed, for harmony must be mutual, based on universal acceptance and not subscribing to absolute exclusiveness which is the fundamental tenet of Islam. Appeasement can never be the secure foundation for social harmony which knowledge and strength are. In knowing Islam from foundational scriptural texts and not from the harbouring of imaginary ideas about it, prejudice may go and real harmony effected from the position of informed strength rather than uninformed indulgent weakness. Q.E.D.
Sugata Bose @Sutanu Chatterjee : You are the soldier and so am I. Let the resistance begin. Others will join in. The tiny seed grows into the mighty tree.
India is not dead. She is still living, in mortal danger but waking once more to resurrect her civilisation that has been thwarted for a millennium and near four centuries now. An old nation recovers slowly, its age making its motion sluggish, for the complexities of culture are immense and they have to be resolved overtime on the unifying basis of the Vedanta which is not a moment's job. The experience of the race, its wisdom, its follies and foibles necessarily make it slow in responding to the challenges of the times but age-old India broods deep and smiles at these ephemeral nations which blaze for a moment like meteoric streaks in the sky and then vanish into nothingness while age-sane India in her unshakable forbearance absorbs and assimilates invasive civilisations till they have in her being become flesh and blood. Such will be the fate of Islam, Christianity and materialism, all of a noxious kind, which dipping in the holy waters of the Ganga will merge in the vast body of the motherland and her Dharma which is why Swamiji may have uttered a phrase to depict the future body of harmonic India as having 'Islam body and Vedanta brain'. By 'Islam body' he may have meant the solidarity of sovereign India and by 'Vedanta brain' the foundational philosophy on which future India would be built and would attain unprecedented greatness. But no aspired end is attained without the adoption of the right means and here we have, as soldiers of Swamiji, work to do. Be thou my helpmate, my comrade-in-arms in this great project of the defence and development of future India. đ
Sugata Bose @Sutanu Chatterjee : I know what you mean but the struggle for the preservation of the Sanatan culture is on and must go on till the goal is reached. Have you forgotten Swamiji's clarion call from the Kathopanishad?
Sugata Bose @Priyadarshi Gupta : Visit Bangladesh and find out for yourself. The Islamic doctrines are being practised to perfection there even today, 1402 years after the Hijrat. These anti-kafir doctrines in Islam are believed by Muslims to be divinely revealed and are thus inviolable and unalterable. Amendment of such divine dictates are disallowed in Islam which effectively means that your mentioning of sthhÄn, kÄl, pÄtra falls flat unless you mean that the onus ever is on the Hindus to cater to them and in consequence maintain muteness in abject subservience to the dastardly situation where Hindus by the day are being brutally murdered, their women raped, children hanged from the ceiling, their property looted and houses being set on fire. đ
Sugata Bose @Sanjeev Shrivastava : Not true entirely. The spiritual realisations of the Rishis as recorded in our shÄstras have been verified repeatedly down the ages and are being verified even today by sincere aspirants. Even mythology has its core philosophical truths which are garbed in narrative form, and not all of mythology are literary representations of such truths in story form, they being itihÄsas or history recorded in the then prevalent BhÄratiya style. Thus, reducing religion or dharma, as we SanÄtanis understand it, to a commercial tool may in common capitalistic experience seem correct but is in essence widely off the mark, for the truth of a system must be judged in terms of the quality of its thought and its best products in application and not by its meanest mercenary types. đ Hindu!
Sugata Bose @YouTube [SATV] : Descendant of Bakhtiyar Khilji who destroyed the Nalanda University, murdered thousands of Buddhist monks and extended the realm of the Delhi Sultanate in Bengal. Thus the interviewee himself said while denying his descent from Hindu rulers like ShashÄnk belonging thd seventh century CE. The gentleman's ignorance about this nation's history was apparent when he said that ShashÄnk existed three thousand years ago. Simply disgusting to see such slave mentality in Bangladeshis who deny their Sanatani lineage and affirm invasive Arab descent!
Sugata Bose @Kapil Patil : You are an intelligent gentleman. Why do you not study Islam a bit and spread the knowledge which will go to making Hindus aware of the civilisational danger that once more faces them? The bull must be taken by the horns, the devil confronted head on, the brute faced straight off. Study the doctrine that is Deen-e-Islam as recorded in its trinity of scriptures, the Qur'an, the Hadees and the Sira, and help raise our civilisational defence. Each one of us must sink in our ploughshare of work in resistance and must not shirk duty in this regard. Interestingly, the word 'shirk' that I have just used is in Qur'anic terms the worst offence a person may make and this is so characteristically committed by the Hindu who is mushrik in consequence. 'Shirk' in English means to avoid a duty whereas 'shirk' in Qur'anic terms means to partner other gods or goddesses with Allah, the only true God who alone is worshipworthy. The person who commits 'shirk' is called a 'mushrik' which you and I and our countless Hindu brethren are, and the punishment for being such is death on earth and damnation in hell hereafter. All offences are bad but 'shirk' the worst. For the former there may be forgiveness by the All-merciful Allah but for the latter never. So, our position as Hindus is rather precarious here and hereafter, you see. The proselytising zealous Muslim in strict adherence to the Qur'an duly thinks that it is his holy duty to save us and attempts to do so by giving us the dawah, that is, the invitation to join the Deen (Islam). Here Muslims are committed and over 1400 years have been converting non-Muslims by persuasion and by force. We, Hindus, have suffered nearly 1400 years of Islamic oppression and continue to do so right till today as the situation in Bangladesh amply exemplifies. One of the primary reasons for this has been our disunity. But a far more dangerous reason was and is our ignorance of the fundamental tenets of Islam. We just have never bothered to read the Qur'an nor do we read it today to find out what Islam truly says. This ignorance of Islamic theology and intent has been the principal cause of our sustained suffering at the hands of Islam. It is time we start reading. Even the Qur'an says in its first verse, "Iqra (read)". So, let us begin our academic defence campaign instead of sitting pretty and expecting government to do everything. After all the government is also made up of individuals like you and me and most are largely ignorant of the motivations of Islam, leave aside their political compulsions and selfishness. đ Hindu!
Sugata Bose @Ujjal Kumar Ghosh : That is why I said eventually 'transunizen' which would include 'multizen'---word coined by creative you (Congratulations!)---and its transcendence beyond space-time-causality. [Refer to my post which run thus:
I am a citizen, a globozen, a unizen and a transunizen as I extend the frontiers of my identity.]
Sugata Bose @YouTube Reels : Neeraj Atri's scientific training makes his presentation crisp and clear. Here he explains two basic terms, kÄfir and mushrik, and in just a few words clears the cobwebs in the deluded Hindu brain.
Sugata Bose @Sanjeev Shrivastava : You are Postmaster General, General Post Office (PMG of GPO). You are no ordinary postman but a man fit to be on postage stamps for your sheer brilliance and sarcastic humour. Long live Sanjeev Shrivastava!
Sugata Bose @Ujjal Kumar Ghosh : Perfect. This is called commenting---precise, pointed, pertinent, and presented in unambiguouss forthright style straight from the barrel of the pen and yet in artful poetic style. Indeed, this is called making an observation that is crisp, clear and concise with concentrated essence coming clean in each of the three principles enunciated thus. đ Hindu!
Sugata Bose @Chandan Bhattacharjee : Perfectly put it. Perfidious politicians and the pandering public.
Sugata Bose @Comal Mahadevan Amrtheswaran : Right you are. And Christians in their righteous notion believe that it is up to them to save the heathen from spiritual ignorance and sin, scarce realising that such a SanÄtani heathen in Swami Vivekananda had stormed their citadels to educate them in the VedÄnta whose one of many off-shoots is essential Christianity which has long been lost in structural Churchianity, pilfering from Swami ChinmayÄnanda's usage of the word. Islam here offers effective resistance to the global hegemony of Christianity but Hinduism nonetheless suffers at the hands of both these Abrahamic 'scarce cater-cousins', here pilfering from Shakespeare. It is the millenia-old retreat of the Sanatan Dharma in one way or the other to rebel Buddhism at first and then to Islam and Christianity. But 'like the receding waters of the sea' (courtesy Vivekananda, Chicago Address, 19 September, 1893) the Sanatan Dharma is gathering force and momentum before it rushes back to deluge the world with the life-giving water of the VedÄnta. đ Hindu!
Sugata Bose @Sharmistha Chatterjee : Sharmistha, one thing. Be brave. Shun cowardice of all sorts. In every movement of life manifest sterling strength. We need towering titans, not debilitated dwarfs. Courage is the criterion, courage of conviction, courage in action. Give up all weakness and be vigorous in manner, mode and means. Affirm your imperishable Self and abide free of fear. None to please, not to appease, none whatsoever to depend upon save thyself. Walk thou like the shining form that treads the path sages have trodden unto the end of life where oceanic freedom shall engulf you. 'Be blessed ever and ever', I hear tidings echoing from the walls of the Self. đ
Sugata Bose @Ujjal Kumar Ghosh : Perhaps, not so hard a heart we should bear towards men of renunciation of whatever degree as such. To put it more mildly, yet no less pertinently, it may be said that monastics of massive indifference to molestation of Hindu mothers and daughters, and the murder of Hindu children and adults by Islamic extremists will lose honour and prestige themselves, and whatever hold they have as of now in the Hindu imagination will fade fast. Public memory may be short but consistent indifference to Hindu helplessness in distressing times, the refusal to catch the bull by the horns and address the Islamic issue vis-a-vis its treatment of the suffering Hindus, is leaving a lasting impression of neglect and betrayal on the Hindu mind. This in turn is steadily alienating such an organisation from the body politic of the Hindus and gradually relegating them to becoming an ineffectual 'universal' sect that is not at all representative of the Hindu cause, especially at a time of great peril to its civilisation. If Political Islam is not resisted in its kafir-mushrik oppression by the most leading Hindu organisation, the SanÄtan samÄj will for sure give birth to another such Sangha that will duly defend the Dharma and unapologetically so. đ Hindu!
Sugata Bose @Cheenmoy Saha : Even if India were to be declared a Hindu Rashtra, that would not solve the Muslim problem. As demography changes in their favour through massive fertility rate difference with the Hindus, democracy will empower them more and more till on becoming majority they will change the Constitution and impose the Sharia in some form or the other that reduces Hindus to third-class mushrik status as they were for well over a thousand years in different parts of the subcontinent. The problem lies in the ideology and it has to be dealt with heavily on an ideological basis now when Hindus are still massively in the majority. đ
Sugata Bose @āĻ¤িāĻ˛āĻ āĻ§āĻ° : An impossible dream in a country where the nightmare of Islam has since pre-Partition days been natural.
Sugata Bose @Mohit Ranjan : Das Thank you. Rectified it, my friend. Thank you again for pointing out the ugly error made by me. But I hope you got the message alright despite the unforgivable error in spelling. đ Hindu!
P.S. In pointing out my ugly spelling error you have exhibited a like ugliness of demeanour which is not expected of a gentleman. Hence, it behoves you to be decent in bringing to people's notice errors that are of lesser significance than the message of a major one.
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Sugata Bose @Rajendra Kundu : No, it is absolutely essential to read the Qur'an for adequate understanding of the adversary's motives in the absence of which Islamic apologists will cleave their way through the defences of SanÄtanis by feeding in false narratives which they cannot if the latter are well-versed in the trinity of Islamic scriptures, namely, the Qur'an, the Hadees and the Sira. Add to that subsequent Islamic history and you get your picture perfect of the perfidy perpetrated by Momins the world over in the last fifteen centuries bathed in infidel blood. đ Hindu!
Sugata Bose @Chandan Bhattacharjee : That is not possible. The Qur'an is the absolute and final word of the Islamic God and cannot be amended. It is valid on all people for all time to come and Muslims must abide by its injunctions to the letter, such is the Qur'anic commandment.
Sugata Bose @Chandan Bhattacharjee : The monks will say that they are constituents of an organisation (RKM) which is strictly apolitical by Swamiji's injunction. Hence, they remain apart from all such involvement. Besides, very few among the devotees of the Ramakrishna Mission have the courage of conviction and the character thereof to posit such a question before the senior monks of the Order who govern its policies and in accordance execute its activities. Their sheepish devotion allows them only to be the 'yes men' of their venerated ones. Hence the situation.
P.S. The Ramakrishna Mission's apolitical status has since the 1980s at least assumed an appeasement turn and utter indifference to the plight of persecuted Hindus beyond providing necessary material relief to them in their times of distress. The Mission's interests are purely universal, one of their own type, where the plight of persecution of the Hindus at the hands of fanatical Muslims is deemed political enough to maintain a safe distance from lodging worthwhile sustained protest, for they have at times done nominal, extremely meek protests on behalf of the Hindus.
The Ramakrishna Mission is after all not purely a Hindu organisation as its lodged lawsuit seeking minority status in the Calcutta High Court in the early 1980s testifies to. They proved from Swamiji's Complete Works that they were more than a Hindu organisation and were in effect a universal organisation with a minority following, an argument which ought to allow them the minority status which the Calcutta High Court in its judgement did. This appeal was made by the Ramakrishna Mission to save its educational institutions from the dastardly interference of the then Left Front Government led by Jyoti Basu. That subsequently in 1995 the three member Supreme Court bench overruled the Calcutta High Court ruling led the Ramakrishna Mission to accept its Hindu identity. But the inertia is on and the same indifference to persecuted Hindus to this day continues. đ Hindu!
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