COMMENTS GALORE ... 73
COMMENTS GALORE ... 73
Sugata Bose @Zahid Mollah : Bangladeshi Hindus are better qualified than their Muslim counterparts. Hence, their higher percentage in government employment. Let West Bengal Muslims study more and qualify. They will also become equally able and competitive. At any rate there is huge appeasement benefit that Muslims here in West Bengal get which is helping to keep them religiopolitically active and in consequence backward. This political bait they should not accept. They should focus more on science and less on religion. Unfortunately they prefer to do the reverse, much to their regressive result in public life. đ
Sugata Bose @Kainat S. Hussain : I am speaking the truth about Islam and that for sure will be unpalatable for the devout Muslims who are indoctrinated into the system from birth. We, Hindus, have suffered enough at the hands of Islam for 1300 years and more. So, it is high time to expose the truths rather than pretend that Islam teaches compassion etc. which in the past millennium we have not been witness to here in Punyabhumi Bharatvarsha, a trend culminating in the dastardly Partition of India with its horrible endpoint genocide of the Hindus, for the genocide has been right from Islam's entry into India with the genocidal capture of Sindh by Islam's subcontinental hero Muhammad Ibn Qasim. The comparison between the Sanatan Dharma and Islam ideologically simply does not last longer than a moment. The Sanatan Dharma is pre-eminently a divine philosophy with roots in transcendental realisations of the Rishis whereas Islam is more a political creed than a philosophical religion as such. The Sanatan Dharma has never persecuted any people of the world whereas Islam mandates violent jihÄd against the infidels whose gory consequence world history has been witness to with horror. To downplay such Islamic atrocities whose latest version we have been witnessing in the Islamic terror organisations worldwide with their tens of thousands of jihÄdi attacks on innocents cannot be falsely equated with stray Hindu violence here and there once in a blue moon. I can understand your predicament and your attempt to sanitise scriptural verses by cherrypicking some and not mentioning many others. It is but your duty to do so for you are beholden to your faith thus. But not me, a suffering kafir, whose motherland has been mutilated, mothers and daughters by the tens of millions murdered, molested, converted and enslaved, sold in Arab markets and disgraced, and what not. So, while it is your duty to defend your faith, it is my dharma to lay bare the historical and textual facts before the lay reader, albeit in as civilised a manner as possible, and there is no end to the civility and civilisation that a Hindu may bear towards all of sentience. đ
Sugata Bose @Subrata Basak : You are absolutely right. Swamiji had prophesied this and it is duly happening, although the Ramakrishna Mission monks keep quoting Swamiji selectively to prove otherwise. But the scene is as clear as daylight and perceptive observers can read the writing on the wall.
As regards Bangladesh the Mission is in a tricky position as they have 19 centres and 7 subcentres there which they have to protect from the aggression of Islamic hoodlums. Thus, they are being wary and in consequence not issuing protest-statements that could potentially instigate the proliferating criminals into attacking them. The Mission's silence thus far has to be, thus, contextually seen and judgement suspended about their position as of now. đ Hindu!
Sugata Bose @Hirak Mookherjee : Hirak Mookherjee, you are a marvel. How beautifully you explain abstruse truths in the simplest of terms! The fan analogy is fantastic. You should be doing public speaking for the clarification of concepts related to our Dharma. May Thakur bless you and yours is my perennial prayer! It is not easy to be simple in delivering complex philosophy and yet you keep doing so with apparent utmost ease. This is a divine gift. May you grow in it and lay it at the service of the billion strong Sanatanis, afflicted as they are with tremendous ignorance of their predecessors' dharma and its profundity! Make it a mission to mould minds perverted from the truth and all strength be yours. I reiterate, you are a marvel. đ Hindu!
Sugata Bose @Kainat S. Hussain : Your rejoinder, though completely opposed to historical fact, is simply a treat to read as it is articulated in such delightful diction. It is not at all disturbing to me as I know the compulsions of your theological background to which I do not in the least subscribe. But I cannot help admiring your writing skills and your slanted erudition of sorts where bias mars comprehension as it necessarily must for devout Muslims bearing the divine commandment of absolute submission to arbitrary assumption. I am a Sanatani Vedantist and do not view you superficially as a Muslim but as the deep divine which is pure existence in relativistic manifestation, the manifestation of the Divine Mother, the apparent person in illusory bondage which overtime you will shake off to assume your divine absolute self, the Atman.
Islam is one of the countless dualistic faiths that the vast corpus of the Sanatan Dharma has within its ambit, indigenous and of alien terrestrial origin. You have scant understanding of the Sanatan Dharma and your understanding of your own faith is selective and not whole. However, it is good that it be so, for the full vision of it will be rather disconcerting, that is, should you be really rational and in truth sincere about your exploration and understanding thereof.
I harbour no ill-feeling towards you, considering you, as I earlier said, an incarceration of the Divine Mother like all women are. This worshipful attitude of the Hindu I bear to you and all others. So, there is no cause for concern in regard to my estimation of you and your divine self. My problem is with the intolerant theology of Islam and not with its adherents per se, drawn as they are unfortunately into its indoctrination through cultural conditions. May Sri Ramakrishna bless you and may you keep corresponding freely as before, for you are, indeed, a rare shower of iterary delight on my otherwise arid Facebook profile, literally speaking! đ Hindu!
Sugata Bose @Ashok Urs : Others talk through their hat but it seems you have exceeded expectations and are speaking through your cap. Hindus are the most compassionate people in the world. History testifies to it. Whatever injustices have happened, have happened internally on account of invasion, conquest, degeneration through civilisation being old and necessarily aged with its concomitant consequences of social inequality and terrible discrimination. But to posit the idea that Hindus need to be taught love and kindness seems a bit too much. Wherefrom will you fetch your superior teacher and what presuppositions about the Hindus impel you unto such a hire purchase of qualified preceptors? It will be meet if you study Swami Vivekananda instead and come to a sense of sanity so that you love your Hindu brethren more dearly and abstain from passing such a puerile judgement on them. đ Hindu!
Sugata Bose @Didi : Titli and Pranjal, the first ones to cut the ice from among the family.
See, they are under down,
Right in the seatown.
Ice strewn all around,
In ship strapped, closet-bound.
There light is low
And billowy sound,
There venture forth
Like penguin clown.
Sugata Bose @Prasenjit K. Basu : Superb review. Hats off to you! How much I learnt! Redolent of Swami Vivekananda's references in this regard. đ Hindu!
Sugata Bose @Zahid Mollah : āĻŦিāĻāĻ্āĻ¤িāĻ āĻŦāĻে---āĻ¸āĻĒ্āĻ¤āĻŽী āĻ¤ā§āĻĒুāĻ°ুāĻˇেāĻ° |
Sugata Bose @Zahid Mollah : āĻāĻ āĻĨুāĻ¤ু āĻĢেāĻ˛াāĻা āĻ¤ো āĻŽোāĻŽিāĻ¨āĻĻেāĻ° āĻŽāĻ্āĻাāĻāĻ¤, āĻŦাংāĻ˛াāĻĻেāĻļেāĻ° āĻāĻ¨āĻ¤াāĻ° 'ā§ā§§āĻāĻ° āĻŽুāĻ্āĻ¤িāĻ¯ুāĻĻ্āĻ§ে āĻাāĻ°āĻ¤েāĻ° āĻ
āĻ¸ীāĻŽ āĻ¸āĻšাā§āĻ¤াāĻ° āĻĒ্āĻ°āĻ¤িāĻĻাāĻ¨āĻ°ূāĻĒী āĻৃāĻ¤āĻ্āĻ¨āĻ¤াāĻ° āĻĒ্āĻ°āĻৃāĻˇ্āĻ āĻĒāĻ°িāĻā§ |
Sugata Bose @Zahid Mollah : Even you are a Hindu deep down with an epidermal cover of Islam. Return to roots where your wiser ancestors belonged generations back. Hence! Back to the Sanatan Dharma! đ Hindu!
Sugata Bose @Zahid Mollah : You laugh a lot. Good, good. Good for health.
Sugata Bose @Nilanjana Chakraborty : That's why we ought to love Zahid Mollah also who is a Hindu by origin, Muslim mid-way and a Sanatani in the final reckoning which perennial path he will once more traverse when his wanderjahre with alien faith is over and his inner eye opens to make way for the return of the prodigal son. Till then Mollah Sahib will keep preparing for the grand reverting. đ Hindu!
Sugata Bose @Zahid Mollah A trifle incorrect. A Hindu is one who inhabits the landmass between the Himalayas to the north and the Indian Ocean to the south. You are, thus, geographically as well a Hindu. đ Hindu!
Sugata Bose @Niloy Podder : The grandad of modern Hindutva, unapologetic forthright fighter for the cause, a true patriot and a saviour of civilisation. đ Hindu!
Sugata Bose @Zahid Mollah : That cowland your near ancestors in 1946-47 seized as they were very fond of cows. đ Hindu!
Sugata Bose @Ujjal Kumar Ghosh : True indeed, for the former does what it does deliberately whereas the latter does things under coercive compulsion. đ Hindu!
Sugata Bose @Satyanand Bhattacharjee : And when we reach the dead end of material science? Then? Because reason has its reasonable endpoint beyond which it cannot proceed. Thereafter spirituality takes over, the gross passing the baton on to the subtle till, at the subtlest, reason is transcended and reality in its absolute state of non-dual existence-consciousness-bliss apprehended. Therefore, rationality is a temporary tool en route to the ultimate state of Being that transcends reason, science a working body of hypotheses that helps human understanding in the relative realm till relativity leads to where the laws of physics break down and there is no way to proceed further. It is a blind lane in the ultimate analysis that must be finally forsaken for the bright avenue of the Spirit that leads to immediate perception of the Truth what in Sanskrit is termed 'AparokshÄnubhÅĢti'. đ Hindu!
Sugata Bose @Satyanand Bhattacharjee : No, Hindus specifically. Otherwise one ought to say the whole of universal evolved sentience across the entire gamut of universes in this seemingly endless phenomenal existence. Coming back to uour referred point, at any rate 'Indian' and 'Hindu' are synonymous. Other denominations are alien to our age-old civilisation and are working to destroy it. This post is specifically directed to the Hindus for their intended strengthening in defence of the Dharma. đ Hindu!
Sugata Bose @Sanjeev Shrivastava : Right you are in real terms really.
Sugata Bose @Zahid Mollah : Your copying my observation proves what a Muslim is, a poor imitator. The original is always true, the plagiarised a fake version as we all know what its larger implications are. đ Hindu!
Sugata Bose @Mazhar Iqbal : India is Israel's friend. Thank heavens. And Israel understands Islam best. đ Hindu!
Sugata Bose @Mazhar Iqbal : Yes, Pakistan and Bangladesh are kith and kin in common faith, and you, Momins, know Hindus best. Unfortunately, despite 1300 years of Islamic persecution Hindus do not still know Islam at all, leave alone knowing it best. This ignorance of the political intentions of Islam is killing the Hindus as a community and threatening to obliterate them. đ Hindu!
Sugata Bose @Sanjeev Shrivastava : Truth-telling is provocation?
Sugata Bose @Milan Bandyopadhyay : āĻ¨া, āĻāĻে āĻিāĻ¨্āĻ¤ু āĻāĻĒāĻ¨াāĻ° āĻŽāĻ¤ āĻāĻŽাāĻে āĻŦাāĻ্āĻ¯āĻŦাāĻŖে āĻŦিāĻĻ্āĻ§ āĻāĻ°াāĻ° āĻĻুঃāĻ¸াāĻšāĻ¸āĻাāĻ°ী āĻ˛োāĻেāĻĻেāĻ° āĻāĻ āĻŦাāĻ্āĻ¯āĻŦাāĻŖেāĻ āĻĒ্āĻ°āĻ¤িāĻŦিāĻĻ্āĻ§ āĻāĻ°াāĻ āĻāĻŽাāĻ° āĻŦিāĻļেāĻˇ āĻাāĻ | āĻ¤াāĻাāĻĄ়া āĻ§āĻ°্āĻŽāĻ°āĻ্āĻˇাāĻ° āĻাāĻ āĻ¤ো āĻ¸্āĻŦাāĻŽীāĻীāĻ āĻāĻŽাāĻĻেāĻ° āĻ
āĻ°্āĻĒāĻŖ āĻāĻ°ে āĻেāĻেāĻ¨ āĻ¯ে āĻŦিāĻˇā§ে āĻāĻĒāĻ¨ি āĻ¸āĻেāĻ¤āĻ¨ āĻāĻŦং āĻ¸āĻেāĻˇ্āĻ āĻšāĻ˛ে āĻ
āĻ¯াāĻ¤িāĻ¤āĻাāĻŦে āĻāĻšেāĻ¨ āĻĻুāĻ°্āĻাāĻˇāĻŖ āĻāĻāĻ¨āĻ āĻāĻ°āĻ¤েāĻ¨ āĻ¨া āĻŦāĻ˛ে āĻŦিāĻļ্āĻŦাāĻ¸ āĻāĻ°ি |
Sugata Bose @Milan Bandyopadhyay : Mind your language. I can give you back in equal terms, remember. Your lack of civility bespeaks your upbringing and sanskÄr. If you do not wish for a fertile volley of words from my side, refrain from verbal violence. Else, my verbal retribution will follow. đ Hindu!
Sugata Bose @Ujjal Kumar Ghosh: The abusive 'gentleman', Milan Bandyopadhyay, quit court after dishing out his choicest diction in a manner characteristic of his upbringing and nature. These are the leftists we have to be wary of as we rebuild our 'wounded civilisation'. đ Hindu!
Sugata Bose @Ujjal Kumar Ghosh : They (leftists) dare to abuse us, then flee by blocking response.
Sugata Bose @Sutanu Chatterjee : Not quite. Had we only talked and talked we would not have been walking today despite more than a millennium of terrible Islamic, Christian and Euro-colonial persecution and plunder. đ Hindu!
Sugata Bose @Subhrajyoti Bhowmick : Absolutely right. Crooks to the core they are, still preaching revolution and in the process subverting our culture and civilisation. đ Hindu!
Sugata Bose @Bikram Mookerjee : Grand idea. Hope it sees the light of day. [The partition of Bangladesh to form a separate Hindudesh for the persecuted Hindu minority there.]
Sugata Bose @Anirudha Bhattacharya : Barbarism brought home to Bengal, now part Bangladesh, by Bakhtiyar Khilji and his band, thereafter begetting and brandishing the sword of Islam to uphold its banner across the barbecued landmass, the balance brought forward from the 1940s via 1971 now burrowing its way back to its borrowed roots across the barren deserts. Bharatvarsha has for sure bothersome 'brethren' on either side. đ Hindu!
Sugata Bose @Zahid Mollah :
TO A BANGLADESHI
MOMIN BHÄI
WHO GAVE MY COMMENT
A LAUGH-SIGN HI
Hasmukh,
Though you are
In the deep, deep dark
And out of light,
You delight!
Your humour fair,
Now these days rare,
Has in the dark
Caught my sight.
I see your nature
In dead wrong path
In a sorry plight.
Hasmukh,
Return to roots,
Where aren't any brutes
And all is fair,
And blossoming love
Will take thy care.
Where the sun shines bright
And the paths, though, many
Are true and sound
And safe and right.
There dwell once more
Where your forefathers bore
Gods and goddesses
And Rishis galore.
There return
From the rough sea wild
To the gentle shore.
Follow me, Hasmukh?
I invite you true
To cast off this dark,
This dark, dark night,
And as prodigal son
In one sharp flight,
Or battling through
For your ancient right
To put up fight,
And end this misery,
This pathetic plight.
Hasmukh,
You must, you must
Cast off fright
And in lofty flight
To roots return.
Am I right?
Composed by Sugata Bose
Sugata Bose @Nilanjana Chakraborty : But harem is not harÄm. See, they hate LÄl but love halÄl.
Sugata Bose @Suraj Mukherjee : āĻ°াāĻāĻ¨ৈāĻ¤িāĻ āĻŽāĻ¤াāĻĻāĻ°্āĻļেāĻ° āĻ°াāĻāĻ¨ৈāĻ¤িāĻ āĻĒ্āĻ°āĻ¤িāĻ°োāĻ§ āĻাāĻ āĻŦāĻāĻি | āĻāĻ¸āĻ˛াāĻŽ āĻāĻāĻি āĻ°াāĻāĻ¨ৈāĻ¤িāĻ āĻŽāĻ¤াāĻĻāĻ°্āĻļ āĻ§āĻ°্āĻŽেāĻ° āĻŽোāĻĄ়āĻে |
Sugata Bose @Imtiaz Mahmood : Not quite unless by religion you mean cults of the Abrahamic tradition. The Sanatan Dharma---if considered a religious tradition, for it like science is very much a deeply investigated philosophical system as well besides its routine religious ritualistic and mythological parts being representative largely of its philosophical essence barring cultural deflections and aberrations thereof in cases---has historically hardly ever resorted to evil-doing either by theological sanction or by practical application. You will immediately point out the VarnÄshram Dharma and the JÄtibhed PrathÄ but you must understand that these are systems evolving out of social situations, injunctions following thereafter to enforce them on the populace but they were never part of the Sanatan Dharma as such. The Sanatan Dharma stands apart from Abrahamic religions thus as a supremely sane and sublime system of thought that can only raise humanity and never lower it, for its philosophy is universal, inclusive and all-embracing. Where historically upper-caste Hindus have persecuted populations within the fold but lying at the base of the social structure or even outside of it, as were the untouchables, it has always been by neglect of the Sanatan principles and never by its backing and support. So, this broad generalisation by Weinberg falls short of scientific accuracy and needs amendment. Perhaps, he was referring to the proselytising Abrahamic faiths, namely Islam and Christianity, with all their horrible historical human heresies and he was thus prompted perforce by emotional impulsion and linguistic limitation in universalisation thus and erroneously so. đ Hindu!
Sugata Bose @Santanu Sarkar : Ramakrishna Mission has 19 centres and 7 sub-centres in Bangladesh which they feel they have to protect from vandalism by Muslim extremist mobs. As such owing to organisational interest they are maintaining a studied silence overboard to avoid provoking mob violence in these turbulent times. But that must not be misconstrued as letting the Hindus of Bangladesh down. The very presence of the Ramakrishna Mission in Bangladesh is power enough for the Hindus there to a certain extent. Beyond that, I feel, the Ramakrishna Mission can hardly do much to mitigate Muslim violence against the Hindus. May be behind the scenes dialogue is going on between the Mission and the administrative authorities in Bangladesh to lower the temperature which now is in the boil. Even ISKCON has sadly but perhaps inevitably, impelled by the same organisational interest, distanced itself from Chinmoy Krishna Das Prabhu and his other comrades-in-peaceful resistance who have been arrested. You see, these are tricky issues where prudence as adopted strategy often wins the long-term war and aggressive tactics, although heartwarming and momentarily enthusing, often misfire to one's precipitous downfall. Both the Ramakrishna Mission and ISKCON propose to stay in Bangladesh and carry on with their spiritual activities which is why they have predictably adopted the strategy classically enunciated as 'Discretion is the better part of valour.' đ Hindu!
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