Sunday 28 January 2024

COMMENTS GALORE ... 42


COMMENTS GALORE ... 42


Sugata Bose @Amit Bedi : Your criticisms are welcome but there are counter-justifications offered as well by the concerned parties. It is for you to evaluate the respective views and arrive at your own one which you are entirely entitled to, and the more such contrary observations are made without malice or ulterior motive, the better for the democratic discourse and healthier for the polity.


Sugata Bose @Saurav Gangopadhyay : The Sanatan Dharma needs to be applied in its true spirit. Then these issues may be duly addressed. It is the lack of application of the Dharma in its correct form that has led to social injustice historically and now. So, religion (read dharma) is not at fault but people including you and me who are responsible for this befallen state.


Sugata Bose @Rudranshu Singh : Megalomania and oftentimes stupidity notwithstanding India is making rapid strides in the coming of nations like never before. The world is in awe of India's progress, economic and civilisational, which barring a few disloyal ones will please all patriotic Indians.


Sugata Bose @Ashit Kumar Pal : During the developmental stage such are the economic imperatives. But they will even out in the course of time as India emerges a developed economy.


Sugata Bose @Sanjay Sah : The upcoming general elections will make it crystal clear as popular sovereignty is all that matters in a democracy. I am not a political fortune teller and choose not to predict the outcome. However, whatever benefits the nation is good for me, especially whatever upholds our Sanatan civilisational traditions and values because, that taken care of, our beloved motherland will rise to glorious heights as of yore.


Sugata Bose @Amit Bedi : The Manu Smriti being a Smriti Shastra is only valid for a specific period of time and not beyond in certain formulations where it may have become outdated. Swami Vivekananda was of the considered opinion that our Smriti Shastras needed change on account of this outdatedness. He had articulated this in the closing years of the nineteenth century. He thought that new sages must arise who would write new Smriti Shastras suited to the age. Besides, only the Shrutis are binding for all time as they are the repository of eternal spiritual truths. Wherever the Smritis come into conflict with the Shrutis, the former is invalidated and the latter becomes the law. Hence, those portions of the Manu Smriti which are in contravention with the pronouncements of the Shrutis are to be treated as null and void in this age, and that certainly includes antifeminine dicta, for the Shruti upholds in trumpet voice the uninhibited divinity of all. N.B. 'Tvam stree tvam pumanasi tvam kumar uta kumari...'


Sugata Bose @Rudranshu Singh : Radicalisation of the minority led to Partition.


Sugata Bose @Rudranshu Singh : Who are you to level charges of megalomania and stupidity on our national leadership?


Sugata Bose @Rudranshu Singh : You are patently a Hinduphobe and ought to introspect before levelling charges on others.


Sugata Bose @Raj Mukherjee : You mean to say our sages and divine incarnations, ancient and modern, were fools? Without introspection how will understand the depth of spirituality?


Sugata Bose @Umesh Magotra : Good joke which is a self-reflection for we all are essentially one.


Sugata Bose @Amit Chatterjee : You are also an Indian. Raise true ones (promises).


Sugata Bose @Saroj Upadhayay : The Geeta itself exhorts the righteous to rise in defence of the Dharma. Study Vivekananda well. You will find that Hindutva derives its inspiration from his writings as well. Eknath Ranade, the one who almost singlehandedly spearheaded the construction of the Vivekananda Rock Memorial Temple was a committed RSS member, a pracharak and a high-ranking office-bearer of the organisation. Guru Golwalkar, the second Sarsanghachalak of RSS, was a disciple of Swami Akhandananda, a direct disciple of Bhagavan Sri Ramakrishna and the third President of the Ramakrishna Sangha. Guruji derived his inspiration from Akhandanandaji and Swamiji among others and built up the superstructure of the Sangha. Dr. Syamaprasad Mukherjee, the creator of West Bengal, the founder of Bharatiya Jana Sangha and the martyr to the motherland's cause---of one nation, one flag and one constitution---in Kashmir was a committed Hindutvavaadi. These were all seminal personalities of tremendous contribution to the nation. Please read Swamiji well before you arrive at your judgement. Sri Ramakrishna came to establish the Sanatan Dharma. His statement, "The modern religions will come and go. Only the Sanatan Dharma will remain," speaks volumes if read rightly. From Adi Shankaracharya to Swamiji this reclamation of the Sanatan heritage, much defiled and destroyed, has been going on and the process is still on. In politics things become messy at times, true, but the genesis of political Hinduism draws its nourishment nonetheless from the works and thought of these seminal sages. This much for the moment. 🕉


Sugata Bose @Amit Bedi : Had religion not politically fought back, as in the case of Guru Gobind Singhji, to cite just a singular instance of momentous significance, we would not have been able to repulse the Mughals in their mass destruction of Hindus and Hinduism. Another such was the religion-inspired Hindu political fightback of Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj whose spiritual Guru Samarth Ramdas galvanised him into taking valorous political action against Aurangzeb.


Sugata Bose @Rudranshu Singh My dear friend, have you forgotten that America itself is an Indian product? When Columbus set off for India, he took the wrong route and accidentally discovered America. Hence, your observation seems like 'putting thr cart before the horse'.


Well, this was said in a lighter vein to your characteristic extraneous remark. But, to put things into perspective, your North American amnesia has made you oblivious of the fact that the Hindus have historically made singular contributions to the field of science, technology, art and architecture, music, dance, medicine and mathematics, to cite just a few disciplines. The decimal system which ushered in the Islamic age of science and thence ushered in the European renaissance and enlightenment was product of Hindu genius. Fibonacci's number was discovered in India 200 years before the Italian did it. The ancient Hindu civilisation is as yet unmatched in terms of philosophical profundity, linguistic grammatical rigour---remember, Sanskrit is the most perfect language from the mathematical-logical standpoint as testified by modern computer specialists---and literary excellence. The medieval Hindu civilisation has fed the marauding invaders and crafty colonisers with wealth, health and wisdom at the cost of its own terrible destruction at their hands. Hindus have built the world. Buddhism, the other great civiliser of Asia, was the foster-child of the Sanatan Dharma. Christianity owes much of its principles and practices to Hindu and Buddhist influences. Read Vivekananda from end to end and all will be clear. Arab Muslims in the medieval period took up the study of Hindu and Greek texts to usher in the golden age of medieval science which helped pull Europe out of the Dark Ages. The Qur'an and the Hadees are numbered in Hindu numerals which have wrongly been dubbed Hindu-Arabic numerals as pointed out by eminent British and American scientists. So, before you relapse into your civilisational amnesia read well the history of your ancestors, then reflect and realise the glory that is Hinduism and the Hindu culture and civilisation. 🕉


P.S. I have not mentioned anything of the modern Hindu's contribution to world civilisation which if occasion arises I will in depth deliver before you for your enlightenment.


Sugata Bose @Subhasish Papan Ghosh : I use the English language, true, but am not at all westernised in my thinking, modes and manners, in my associations and in my way of living. I write in Bengali as well, though less frequently. Westernisation as an imitated mode is far from my culture and I detest that superimposed artificial culture as ill-suited to our temperament. After all 'svadharmey nidhanam shreyoh paradharma bhayaavaha'. Remaining true to indigenous culture is far better than aligning artificially with alien culture amongst which popular western culture ranks as the most pervasively invasive.


Sugata Bose @Joydeep Ghosh : Hindutva is our defence against pernicious Abrahamic proselytism and left social subversion which is why proponents of these ideologies so vent their vitriol against Hindutva.


Sugata Bose @Rudranshu Singh : All the ten Sikh Gurus were Hindus and were great defenders of the Sanatan Dharma, especially from the fifth Sikh Guru Arjan Deviji onwards to the glorious tenth one in Gobind Singhji.


Sugata Bose @Rudranshu Singh : You habitually call others by all sorts of names as your self-styled copious carping comments amply bear testimony to. So, introspection is the call of the hour on your part instead of indulgence in pointing fingers indiscriminately at fictitious figures.


Sugata Bose @Rudranshu Singh : Shame on you for harbouring such lowly thoughts and articulating them in such derogatory language!


Sugata Bose @Henry D'Almeida : What a preposterous assumption!


Sugata Bose @Subhasish Papan Ghosh : Our national culture is predominantly spiritual. So, the dharma is overwhelmingly present everywhere in our cultural aspects and forms the bedrock of our civilisation.


Sugata Bose @Pahari Pothik : There are essential ultimate differences in articulation of the nature of reality, although, one is persuaded to believe that these are mere variances of verbal expression and nothing more. For truth absolute is but one which in relative derivative assumes variation, depending on the location of the observer, that is, his perspective. The Poornavaad of Shankara and the Shunyavaad of the Hinayana Buddhists seem to be essentially the same. Over two thousand years of debate has not resolved the issue in relative terms and only the realised soul can testify to the veracity or otherwise of the respective claims.


Sugata Bose @Alok Vaishnava : Nobody places Hindutva above the tenets of the Sanatan Dharma. It is puerile to think so. Hindutva derives its birth from and sustenance in the Sanatan Dharma and is geared towards protecting Hindu civilisational interests in the teeth of proselytising Abrahamic religious aggression which has for over 1300 years subjugated the Hindu polity, subverted their civilisational culture, persecuted them endlessly, looted them to the marrow and finally dismembered the holy motherland. It is a necessary reaction to the forces that are ever working to run down our age-old civilisation and eventually overpower and obliterate it. 🕉


Sugata Bose @Henry D'Almeida : 'The second Sarsanghachalak of RSS, Guruji Golwalkar was the disciple of Swami Akhandananda, direct disciple of Sri Ramakrishna.' --- This is the post. What do you find objectionable in it that makes you veer along a different track typically?


Sugata Bose @Henry D'Almeida : Who are you to question me regarding my posts? Are you some overseeing authority who I am supposed to get my posts certified by? You had earlier said that you would appreciate if I furnished the source of a Vivekananda quotation which I had promptly complied with. However, you did not exhibit the minimum civility of acknowledging it, far less appreciate, and carried on with your tirade, generally off-course, of my posts wherever you came across them. And now do you fancy you have the moral right to even ask for an explanation as to this innocuous post or elaboration on any future post?


P.S. Please peruse through your comment and my response in the above regard from the link being provided here to verify whether I have stated the truth or not.


https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=940262607658889&id=100050254759738&mibextid=Nif5oz


Sugata Bose @Krishnendu Majumdar : And who is this uncle by the way? Let my identity be clarified in your conception first before you lodge fanciful charges.


Sugata Bose @Subhasish Papan Ghosh :  You should be more restrained in making your observations about Mother Seeta. She is not to be made the subject of your jokes or sarcasm. Leaving the poem proper you chose to poke fun at an extraneous issue which is utterly unbecoming of you. Being topical and in civility so is the hallmark of a courteous reader. You could not in all sincerity appreciate the poem. All that you could do was to launch typically into unrelated jest. May Sri Ramakrishna bless you!


Sugata Bose @Henry D'Almeida : I shall carry on writing notwithstanding your pompousness in the earlier response as if you are the arbiter sitting over in judgement over matters of national importance. And for doing so I neither need your supercilious advice nor consent but can exercise my own discretion and freedom to do so. Your insinuation as to my hidden motive only befits your mentality of seeking vice where virtue is.


Sugata Bose @Henry D'Almeida : Do you believe that you know best what is in national interest and what is not? First be a nationalist yourself, get steeped in our Sanatan spiritual culture and only then venture to advise Sanatanis like us for whom motherland is everything. 'Janani janmabhumishcha svargaadapi gariyasi.' (My mother and my motherland are more glorious than heaven.)


Sugata Bose @Henry D'Almeida : Do you believe that you know best what is in national interest and what is not? First be a nationalist yourself, get steeped in our Sanatan spiritual culture and only then venture to advise Sanatanis like us for whom motherland is everything. 'Janani janmabhumishcha svargaadapi gariyasi.' (My mother and my motherland are more glorious than heaven.) You are merely a motivated faultfinder who can see no good in my writings on account of that. I have always been civil towards you but to no effect. If you find my writings inconsequential, then why do you waste your valuable time and energy reading them and responding therein? You should value your time better by ignoring my observations. I shall help you to do that.


Sugata Bose @Subhasish Papan Ghosh : Saffron/ochre is the holiest colour in the Sanatan spiritual culture and holds for all Sanatanis the highest value. It is the colour of awakened spiritual consciousness which is the end of terrestrial evolution en route to the Atman/Brahman. Hence, as a Sanatani it is but natural that I should be inspired by the saffron and I am proud to be so. However, your insinuation is located otherwise which I do not subscribe to in quite the way you imagine.


Sugata Bose @Parnika Bubna Gupta : Life is long and the journey often arduous. But she tides over circumstance who has learnt 'the science of being and the art of living' (quoted words being the title of Maharshi Mahesh Yogi's celebrated book).


Sugata Bose @Raj Mukherjee : The Sanatan Dharma includes all these principles which you mention and much more besides. It is not a religion but is the very civilisational basis of this holy motherland of ours. It is not a religion in the Abrahamic sense of rigid codes and dogmas but is a philosophical system which is the repository of eternal spiritual truths whose right application in practical terms has the power to help evolve the barbaric man to the human plane and the human to the divine. Its comprehensive sweep covers every aspect of life, yet without rigidity whatsoever. The Sanatan Dharma is the body of golden principles which if correctly applied will bring about a civilisational renaissance in India and the world.


Sugata Bose @Raj Mukherjee : Perhaps you do not understand the Sanatan Dharma well which is why you say so. Study Swami Vivekananda's Complete Works cover to cover, all nine volumes, and then assess afresh the significance and import of the Sanatan Dharma.

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