COMMENTS GALORE ... 36

COMMENTS GALORE ... 36

Sugata Bose @Swapan Pal : You really have a sense of humour, horrific though the prospective reality be.

Sugata Bose @Vivekananda Dutta : Were Netaji and Rabindranath who addressed Gandhiji as Mahatma JOKERS as well in your esteemed estimation? If so, I would be only too happy to be in their august company. Sure enough Ambedkar categorically affirmed that he had never called Gandhiji Mahatma as the latter in his view did not possess the character of one who should deserve that epithet. But countless others of hallowed memory have hailed him as Mahatma in spite of his imperfections, and there were justifications as well for their having done so. At any rate epithets such as Lokmanya, Loknayak, Deshbandhu, Deenbandhu, Deshanayak, Pandit, Gurudev, Vidyasagar and the like are formally or informally conferred on seminal ones for their contribution to human and national welfare out of recognition of their work, out of distinctive reverence. So, addressing one who is generally addressed as Mahatma throughout India by most is natural, I suppose, and I cannot quite see the humour in it the way you put it so much so as to confer on me the undeserved epithet JOKER. May sanity and civility adorn our civic discourse!

Sugata Bose @Suvasish Ganguly : Your reading of Swamiji is insufficient and reading of history slanted as leftist leanings of the common thinker has been historically. What a far cry from such stalwarts like Prof. Hiren Mukerjee and Dr. Bhupendranath Datta who were ardent admirers of Swamiji and have poured their adulation on him!

Mere economic strength maketh not a nation which is the composite of men. Unless men be of character and nobility of being civilisation inevitably declines. 

Your observations are valid in lesser terms but lack deeper insight which is the stuff of deep thinkers who are better equipped to comment on such seminal greats as Swamiji or Marx, apparently opposed though they may seem to be in terms of dialectical understanding of nature and human evolution. The Marxian dialectics of historical and economic materialism are not the only operative modes of human evolution but there is a deeper spiritual current that guides them along. This is a lengthy discussion to which you may not be privy on account of your closed mindset at the moment which deems matter as master-force without plumbing deeper into its seed-form and its spiritual essence. Were you a deeper student of Swamiji you would have been better able to comprehend our national problems more comprehensively and arrived at a more holistic and sympathetic appreciation of it which unfortunately your slanted political views bar you at present from reaching. Do read Swamiji's Complete Works repeatedly with an open mind in its historical setting and with purity of purpose and a feeling heart so that your mind clears of all this dross that currently confounds its deeper understanding. Thanks, nonetheless, for reading and commenting, albeit consistently along a leftist line that is material and material alone without deeper philosophical import. 🕉

Sugata Bose @Suvasish Ganguly : Read 'Vivekananda and Indian Freedom' by Prof. Hiren Mukerjee and 'Swami Vivekananda Patriot-Prophet' by Dr. Bhupendranath Datta, both authors being confirmed and committed communists who have along lines of socialistic understanding interpreted Swamiji but with a broader sympathy and a more nationalistic heart.

Sugata Bose @Arunangshu Mandal : Your prodigious talent in stirring up humour is being wasted in a country where people lack the intelligence to appreciate it. Most are dull, insensate individuals who can scarce comprehend comedy.

Sugata Bose @Riya Bhattacharya : Just watched the Nasreen video you had sent. A masterful presentation. I can scarce believe that it was her own writing and suspected the language of the speech to have been pruned by someone else with a better command of English. If it was Nasreen who wrote it, it was a literary work par excellence. Doubts apart, simply marvellous, albeit in tragic terms. What an intrepid soul, a heretic in the Islamic world, true! A Voltaire, a Rousseau of our times.

Sugata Bose @Arunangshu Mandal : You are an inexhaustible source of literary humour. Hope you gain a wider audience to relieve the tensions of moden-day living in most. Do not give up as all great things are achieved slowly but surely. Success is yours in the making. So, keep your purse ready to pay the making-charge.

Sugata Bose @DrAjey Shindde : See the lack of response to this post. Other than uou nobody has responded and even you have not given a 'like' to the post. This lack of solidarity, of courage, of conviction, of mutual help and conjoint effort, this petty self-living in one's own ambit has historically killed the Hindus and is doing so even now. This is why despite being so numerous we are a persecuted lot, victims of violence at the hands of hoodlums sporting a narrow religious ideology that has been the nemesis of the Hindus.

As regards the Saudi Crown Prince, his moves may not be a disavowal of Islam's core tenets and practices but may have been actuated by pragmatic considerations with respect to the West and the altered conditions in a fast modernising world. Whether Saudi Arabia can push this programme to making effective changes in its governance for good remains to be seen. Do not forget Turkey, Iran and Afghanistan were more modern decades ago and are more Islamic now. The Islamisation process is on ever since the tapping of vast reserves of oil in the Middle East and the formation of the OPEC. The Islamic revolution in Iran led by Ayatollah Khomeini put paid to the Shah's modernisation programme there and it is now an absolute theocracy. Erdogan's progressive Islamisation of Turkey is finishing off Mustafa Kemal Pasha's secularisation of the country. Afghanistan has long lost its pre-Taliban freedom. So you see, Islamisation is a long-drawn political process that inexorably goes on like gravity attracting masses at first almost imperceptibly from a great distance and then with increasing rapidity till its end as in a black hole is violent and irreversible. Thus, the Ex-Muslim Movement provides hope for Muslims and non-Muslims alike as it is exposing the ideological inconsistencies of the religion and the inhumanity of so many of its tenets and practices.

Sugata Bose @Ranjan Mitra : Aggressive in the sense of missionary zeal. This was how Swamjji defined it when asked the same question in America.

Sugata Bose @Sanjeev Shrivastava Read Sita Ram Goel, Ram Swarup, Koenraad Elst, Harsh Narain, Suhas Majumdar, in short the VOICE OF INDIA Publications, and you will come to an altered understanding of the whole game.

Sugata Bose @Rítãm Màitrà : Nepal used to be a secular state till a few years back. Communists successfully campaigned, whipped up public opinion and converted it into a secular state.

Sugata Bose @Raka Bhattacharyya : This is an insufficient post owing to paucity of coloured space. Read the detailed one above. I am not sympathetic towards any terrorist outfit or their toxic ideology. I have outlined my views in the next post. Deign to read and respond.

Sugata Bose @Ramakrishnan Mahadevan :  And how do you propose to defend Hindu interests by the way? Through sloganeering and cowardly cowering before the drawn sword of the adversary? Your objection is to use of the word 'humanity' which means, if I err not in interpretation, that you would exclude human welfare as upholding Hindu welfare necessarily as well in its geopolitical global context. If I may further venture into a bit of indiscretion, may I ask you if you are thereby suggesting that the Hindu in isolation can sufficiently exist and his sole protection should be our focus of attention, a narrow idea for sure but unpracticable and going against the spirit and character of whatever the Hindus have thus far espoused. Hindu welfare is a subset of human welfare and need not be a set disjointed from the latter. The last three words of the post, 'heaven help humanity!' have a different connotation altogether which you typically failed to understand. So, what can be done? 🕉

Sugata Bose @Sulekha Basu : Oh, unwittingly I have given expression to the same idea originally penned by the one who has said it all long before we were born! However, in my lines there is a slight variation in that here the part and the whole have been brought into focus, somewhat akin to Thakur's parable of the blind men and their fractional understanding of the elephant.

Sugata Bose @Bhashwati Chakraborty : You have not understood the linguistic nuance of the words of the post including the key word 'frustration'. Hence your misgiving.

Sugata Bose @Pratik Chakraborty : Kumar Utsav, is this how your Facebook friends address others? Is this the sign of devotion to the Holy Trinity of Thakur-Ma-Swamiji? By the way I see that this disparaging comment made by Shree Pratik Chakraborty has been deleted, and that for good measure. Hopefully good sense has prevailed and I thank him or you, whoever has deleted the abusive comment, for it. May Thakur bless you both!

Sugata Bose@Swapan Kumar Ghosh : I wish here to universalise the idea of service out of fellow-feeling. Atheists would reject the deeper spiritual reality of God. They have a different explanation for kinship, morality, ethics and fellow-feeling. Hence you see.

Sugata Bose @A devotee : So, you have renounced at last? Good, good, good for spiritual awakening. Be awakened! Be illumined! But like this do not renounce your near and dear ones. Stay close to them. Family matters, at least so long as you need them. Then they also are dropped off as so much appendage, hindrances in the way of Self-realisation. But post Self-realisation the Rishi returns to embrace all in his enveloping love, albeit maintaining the due distance. This is 'the way of all flesh' and this is the way of the Spirit as well. Rare, very rare in life is one blessed to come across such a selfless one as Sri Ramakrishna who had absolutely no selfish desire moving him. Seek refuge in such a luminous one and come to light. Mother keep you ever in Her arms and protect you from all harm!

Sugata Bose @Suvasish Ganguly : Sure, we should. But I hope you will be as amenable to honouring public opinion should it sway to making Nepal or India a Hindu Rashtra again.

Sugata Bose @Mayookh Roy : Let us as individuals transform ourselves, and in course of time a massive spiritual current will sweep society. This has been the time-tested way and remains so even today.

All movements have their beginnings in seed-form but as the banyan grows, its roots deeepen and shoots multiply till it afforests the surroundings with its dispersed fertility, its seeds carrying the germ of life. Individuals, seminal beings, appear in history to set in seed movements which proliferate overtime to cover the vast expanse of the world. 

Therefore, cast off despondency and be the carriers of spiritual life to all and sundry, near and far, whosoever you may come across, that the message of the Atman reverberates through the world. Prepare yourself for this purpose by become illumined yourself, then spread the word around. This, Swamiji, avers, is India's foreign policy, and we must not fail him in its execution.

Swamiji had also made a prophetic pronouncement, "If this nation wants to rise, it will have to rally round his (Sri Ramakrishna's) name." So, seek refuge in Ramakrishna, the ocean of love and life, truth and tranquillity. 🕉

Sugata Bose @Mayookh Roy : I have talked of changing oneself first. Then things nay or may not follow. That may be seen then. At any rate, in the post proper I have not mentioned all these that you have brought up by way of inference. The post is simple and the inferential discussion extraneous to it.

Sugata Bose @Sahai DrSanjeev : To trigger thinking, to set up discussion on contentious issues, to quicken intelligent responses, to make passive piety active and reason prevail over inertial acceptance of doctrine.

Sugata Bose @YouTube (First Post) : Palki Sharma, you are too loud in delivery. Need greater musicality, a softer tenor, a gentler tone that does not betray verbal arrogance of sorts.

Sugata Bose @Debaprasad Bhattacharya : লক্ষ্য না পরিণতি? সঠিক ভাষান্তর হয়নি বলে বোধ হচ্ছে |

Sugata Bose @Nayan Paul : Hold on to your faith and proceed along your line of devotion to the Holy Trinity of Thakur-Ma-Swamiji. Avoid vain argumentation. Subtler truths are to be apprehended, said Swamiji. Do not allow the delicate balance of the loving mind to be upset by arrogant assertions of surface thinkers who have no clue to the profundities of spiritual thinking. Let the mind be guarded by your love for Thakur-Swamiji and not hurt by stray observations of unthinking individuals. 🕉

Sugata Bose @Avik Bandyopadhyay : Of course. The greatest and the most perfect manifestation of divinity according to Swamiji, verily the source of all divine incarnations in the words of Gauri Pandit, the celebrated Shakti-sadhak of the day.

Sugata Bose @Ashik R Shahin : But there is no harm in questioning as well, provided the discourse be kept civil. Irrational beliefs may be rationally challenged and must be so to advance human thinking and prevent fanaticism. Such is the path of progress. There is no harm in initiating discussion but a great deal of harm in suppressing it. Let the dialogic process flourish but with good intent and a healthy end in mind. Else, it becomes so much froth tantamount to nothing substantial.

Sugata Bose @Subir Das : Ancestral worship has been historically prevalent in China.

Sugata Bose @Rabindra Mukhopadhyay : Hopefully so but with rapid demographic change and consistent efforts at dividing the Hindus into upper caste and Dalits, the prospects are bleak. Partition has proved the point as undivided greater Bharatvarsha is now surrounded by the Muslim states of Afghanistan, Pakistan and Bangladesh, and there are the increasing number of Islamic segments within the state of India with their secessionist objectives and, worse still, the sinister aim of transforming predominantly Hindu India to yet another Islamic state. Ghazwa-e-Hind is the prophesied political destiny they pursue with help from foreign states, all siblings in the vast and growing Ummah.

Sugata Bose @Henry D'Almeida : You seem to be a Sigmund Freud reborn that you so divine others' intentions, only that Freud was not as casual or careless in his observations as you are.

Sugata Bose @Henry D'Almeida : I appoint you for that job. Besides, your observation is extraneous to the post which, however, is a commonplace occurrence online and not worth responding to at that. That you ascribe intentions and deem yourself fit to advise me on my necessary course of investigative action on the assumption that I am not privy to such information and analyses, has brought forth this response, a wholly wasteful endeavour directed at one who can so be Incorrigibly slanted in criticism, superficiality of the mind befuddling his comprehension of the deeper import of a post.

Sugata Bose @Sahai DrSanjeev : Not quite as recent researchers reveal.

Sugata Bose @Henry D'Almeida : If you feel empowered enough to advise me on my course of investigative action, you automatically lay yourself open to a return of compliment from my side in terms of being appointed for the said job of investigation yourself that would clear confusion from your befuddled mind. As regards the finger phenomenon, that is a silly allusion children of immature faculties use to settle debates irrationally. Surely you do not affiliate yourself to such a puerile party of deflected thinkers.

Sugata Bose @Debaprasad Bhattacharya : Yes indeed. In pursuance of your line of thinking it may in all fairness be stated that the Sanatan Dharma is the universal set of spiritual ideas whose partial representation the different sectarian religions of the world thus far have been, they having been manifested in different climes as per the exigencies of the times, and an infinite variety of such sects will yet arise in the unfolding future to help humankind climb the ladder that connects heaven and earth, heaven not in the Semitic sense but in its deeper freedom import. No wonder Swamiji called the Sanatan Dharma the 'mother of religions'.