Sugata Bose
Indeed, this should be done and it is long due. The army of liberation was discredited and the soldiers denied pension by the Nehruvian dispensation till Indira Gandhi took the necessary measures to undo this terrible travesty of fairness and justice, leave aside gratitude to the liberators and being one with them. Even today, despite tall protestations to the contrary, the present government merely does token service to the cause and not enough in terms of adopting adequate measures to uphold Netaji, his ideology of national integration and reconstruction and his and, above all, his supreme objective of forming a super powerful army for the defence of independent India out of the volunteers to his cause of armed revolution for the liberation of India. Netaji had exhorted the soldiers of the INA to fight for India's freedom in a manner that those who would survive the war could bank on the wartime experience to provide the same for India's future national army. All these hopes of the liberator of India were but belied as Jawaharlal Nehru and his Congress collaborators conspired with the Allied Powers to allow the dismemberment of India and the settling in for a partitioned dominion status under the British Crown with its corresponding membership to the British Commonwealth of Nations. The scars of Partition we still bear and our army rejoices in its heritage of martial glory while in service to the coloniser British. Therefore, if there be a semblance of self-respect left in the children of our much ravaged motherland, we ought to forthwith come out of the Commonwealth and follow it up with the necessary patriotic actions that will truly make our liberation from British stranglehold a reality and not an eyewash as craftily planned by the British and executed by the characterless Congress prior to 1947 and clung to for unknown reasons by governmental dispensations thereafter till date. May the renaming of the Indian Army as the Indian National Army as Netaji had done be the primary steps taken towards fulfilment of the hero's dreams of a renascent India and with it may self-respect return to Indians, long deluded by an international conspiracy of epic proportions ! And with it may our soldiers, 26000 of them, who died in the jungles of Burma and in the hills of Manipur, and thousands more who perished in transit camps at Jhikargachha, Neelgunge and Barasat, be resurrected from their ashes and from the dust of the grave unto the sunshine of a nation's tearful final farewell, long lying in wait ! May we all unite to pile up pressure on the Government to take cognisance of this demand of ours and do the needful to redress this longstanding injustice and may our movement by conjoined action ever build up in strength and the capacity to make changes ! Jai Hind !
Sugata Bose
Sambuddha Mukhopadhyay, it is time to defend your post, although shared from somewhere else. Else, you are creating mere nuisance and not actually provoking a discussion. You need to now come out and answer the points thrown at you, although, you may claim that the post has not been penned by you. But it can always to the contrary be said that you have shared it on this group page with full knowledge about its volatile critical content and, therefore, ought now to show some spine and defend the same.
Sugata Bose Indeed. You have so succinctly said it, Parashuram Purushottam.
Sugata Bose Not quite. Just a provocative assertion on my part to trigger discussion for better clarity on the relative attributes of the duo. But the move, not mischievous by any means whatsoever, as some have suggested, but made by way of sincere seeking to know more and also to find out where the polity stands on this issue, backfired, nay, boomeranged on me to catch me napping but in the process did me the greatest service to arrive at an analytical and synthetic understanding of the profundity of the Netaji-mind which with further reading is by the day confirming that the people at large are not always worse off in conception of certain essential features of the seminal greats than the so-called intellectuals abounding in society who are more often than not culpable to devious reasoning and dispersed understanding of them and, in consequence, a fractured conception of history which the common man in his applied common sense is not prone to somehow. Anyhow, the move may have backfired but it has opened up for me a wealth of treasures lying hidden in books and writings which I have not laid my hands on for quite some time and which now needs the act of opening up for my consciousness to open up with it. May the greats of the past bless me with understanding and fulfil my life, so help me God ! May Netaji sit rightly adorned in the midst of my heart and guide me unto fresher understanding of history and all its ilk !
Neeta Banerjee My dear Sugata Bose,
Your answer to my query is admirable, indeed.Yes, more than a slight indignance, it was an innocently questioning attitude which prompted my to write those words. Your assertion about Jawaharlal Nehru's intellectual superiority somehow smelt of your conviction of the same.I wished to find out the reasons behind anybody's conviction in the matter. Netaji will always cause a tussle between heart & mind in our hearts. So let the arguments continue..!!
Neeta Banerjee This "thrust and parry " in 'fencing' language, is not only insurmountably interesting, it also encourages a multi dimensional aspect to the topic under discussion. Looking forward to your posts, as usual. My best wishes to you.
Sugata Bose Thank you. A reader won is a million tonne and a post furnished with frolic and fun.
Sugata Bose Keep asking them please and we shall try to answer them to the extent our knowledge can stretch to provide such solutions. This mystery is seemingly unsolvable but asking the right questions will help set our direction right towards arriving at plausible theories and probable answers. So, let the queries flood the page.
Sugata Bose 'Supreme leader with supreme sacrifice' -- so beautifully said it, almost a quotable quote from now on. Tridib Ghosh, you have paid the hero a masterful homage in articulate terms. Our like sacrifice in whatever small measure for the cause of the resurrection of the memory and attainments of our revolutionaries, prince among whom remains our leader of immeasurable greatness and unfathomable love for the motherland, now must call out the best in us and set the wheel of freedom rolling yet again unto the high noon of national renaissance.
Sugata Bose Indeed, in the history of the world he remains almost nonpareil.
Sugata Bose You are my great inspiration, Diganta. Netaji is evidently with you, I feel, for you are simply saturated with his spirit. You, Diganta, are emblematic of what the youth in India ought to be, what the revolutionaries had hoped future citizenry in young India would be, and what was the choicest aspiration of your life's hero in declarations galore from various fora in those bygone days of repressed but revolting India against British oppression. Carry on with your mission and we are all there with you to hold the staff of this ever-unfurling flag of freedom.
Sugata Bose This is an original name and I heartily commend you for it. But the vast number of followers of Netaji seem to have already decided on remembering this anniversary of the hero's birth as 'Desh Prem Divas' which alliterates well as well. However, such original ideas as you float keep the discussion alive and for good measure, too.
The name 'Hero's Day' is terse, apt and in keeping with all the other names such as 'Teacher's Day', Children's Day, 'Martyr's Day', 'Independence Day', 'Republic Day' and the like. Hence, your subscription to it is pertinent and worth considering as well. However, I feel, the dominant mood of the day is for 'Desh Prem Divas' which is in Hindi and will, therefore, hold its ground among the masses better who will somehow attach nationalism more with it than the appropriate name you so timely suggest.
Sugata Bose Diganta Sengupta Your humility is befitting of your commitment to the cause and will save me from the charge of some that I am being over-indulgent to one who as yet is in his blossoming years of unfolding maturity.
Sugata Bose Please contribute posts and observations then in copious quantity.Sugata Bose I am not the one you suppose I am. First get your facts correct.
Sugata Bose Bhaskar Rao Please understand that you are thoroughly mistaken about my identity. To put its straight since you seem to harbour an erroneous impression about my person, I am not the historian-politician former Parliamentarian Prof. Sugata Bose, Gardiner Professor of Harvard University, who also happens to be Netaji's grand nephew, but am quite another Sugata Bose, a completely apolitical person of far humbler attainments and totally unconnected by blood-bond to the extended Netaji family, and am happy to be so.
Sugata Bose I am not the one you suppose I am. First get your facts correct.
Sugata Bose Bhaskar Rao Please understand that you are thoroughly mistaken about my identity. To put it straight, since you seem to be harbouring an erroneous impression about my person, I am not the historian-politician former Parliamentarian Prof. Sugata Bose, Gardiner Professor of Harvard University, who also happens to be Netaji's grand nephew, but am quite another Sugata Bose, a completely apolitical person of far humbler attainments and totally unconnected by blood-bond to the extended Netaji family, and am happy to be so.
Sugata Bose Bhaskar Rao For a change let me hear from you what your perceptions are regarding the questions posited by you.
Sugata Bose But Anuj Dhar claims that Bhagavanji suffered from PTSD. How about that? Moreover, he subscribes to the fact that Netaji had been married and had fathered a daughter which is at complete variance with what Bhagavanji had said about Netaji. If Bhagavanji was Netaji post return to India and living as monk incognito, as Anuj Dhar believes and vociferously propagates, then ought he not to know better about his own earthly affairs than a future fractional follower of his who conveniently believes what suits him and rejects where he is in a spot of bother, to make all ends meet? How about that? PTSD is a convenient way to explain all supposed anomalies of the narrative and is, to devotees of Bhagavanji-Netaji, a gross insult to his hallowed person. How about that as well?
Sugata Bose I have no idea. It was telecast on DD National this afternoon and re-telecast tonight. Simply a historical heresy, an outrageous movie that is distasteful to a degree, to put it in euphemistic terms.
Sugata Bose The comparison must be done for better clarity in comprehension. After all, despite differences, they were both engaged in the task of freeing India from colonial consequence. Hence, the comparison is absolutely valid, to my mind, and deserves utmost and careful scrutiny to arrive at a better understanding of the history of the freedom movement. History, remember, thrives through such comparisons, contrasting though historical characters may be. In fact, all knowledge that humans get to know is by such a mode of comparison, including the very perception of this differentiated world. But that is a long story and I will cut it short by appreciating your viewpoint and cogitating on it duly. Thank you for responding with due diligence. Please continue to enlighten us with such original observations as this.
Sugata Bose Rajendra Kundu Gandhi is being exposed fair and square by recent investigations into British colonial history.
Sugata Bose PTSD is the abbreviated form of 'Post Traumatic Stress Disorder'. It means that a person suffering from extreme stress undergoes a nervous disorder which makes him behave in a certain erratic manner where he is prone to hallucinating. This is a psychological aberration brought about by terrible third degree torture inflicted on a person which leads to a permanent impairment of his nervous organisation and lends him to fantasising impossible attainments.
Such a feature is noticeable in Bhagavanji, Mission Netaji members note, where he talks of military missions conducted by him which, to their mind, are virtually impossible. To rationalise the whole affair and yet to cling to their conviction that Bhagavanji was Netaji living the renunciate's life incognito, they have introduced this medical element to the case which has injured the sentiments of ardent devotees of Subhas-Netaji-Bhagavanji-Mahakaal for whom such belittling of their idol is offence unforgivable. Mission Netaji's proposition has taken the likes of venerable Bijoy Nag, Madhusudan Pal, Keshab Bhattacherjee and other notables by surprise to begin with and indignation thereafter. According to them, Bhagavanji was absolutely possessed of his faculties and showed no signs of possible derangement that ought to prompt such an aspersion on him.
Whether Bhagavanji was/is Netaji Is upto individual conviction and claim, especially after the Sahay Commission has categorically rejected this proposition. The Commission has concluded that Gumnami Baba, alias Bhagavanji, was an ardent follower of Netaji but not Netaji himself.
There are divisions among the proponents of Bhagavanji being Netaji with sharp differences in their status towards the venerable monk. One group (Jayashree) claims that Netaji is alive and active in a supernal plane even today as Mahakaal and that he will appear before all, if he so feems it fit, when the times are ripe. Another group (Mission Netaji) claims that Bhagavanji died on 16 August, 1985 at Faizabad and was cremated at Guptar Ghat, Ayodhya. This latter group also subscribes to the belief that Netaji had married his Austrian secretary, Emilie Schenkl and fathered a daughter, Anita, an assertion which the former group considers heretical and worthy of the strongest condemnation.
Now there are allegations by many that commercial considerations are ruining genuine research into the the disappearance mystery and those that are in the limelight are making a quick buck by selling fanciful stories in the market of popular consumption. Thus, serious research is missing and conclusions are drawn about Netaji post August 1945 that often have neither rational rigour of argument nor sufficient legally tenable data or evidence. Were such available, the mystery would have been solved long ago in a law court and inconclusive inferences would not sully discussion and never-ending debate on the whole affair. Parties on all sides have their respective narratives by way of insufficient explanation which leaves the subject open to endless conjecture without definitive conclusion. Now you are free as well to be convinced this way or that, or to be hanging in mid-air in a state of animated suspense, if you are an optimist yet and awaiting a closure to the issue at last, or disgusted by the murkiness of the ongoing chaotic deliberations online and resigned to the fact that this affair will forever remain a mystery like so many other disappearances,namely, that of Meera Bai, Kabir, Chaitanya Mahaprabhu and Nana Saheb.
Sugata Bose Pranab Jana You are mistaken about my identity as so many others, through no fault of mine, are. I am not the historian Sugata Bose you allude to but am quite another Sugata Bose who is totally unconnected to Netaji's extended family by blood-bond. I am apolitical completely, am not a historian except in terms of amateurish dabbling with facts and fancies of history, and only share a copious interest with my namesake in Netaji and the revolutionaries for freedom. So now that the cards are on the table and confusion is clarified, let us debate whatever propositions I have laid bare before you regarding Anuj Dhar's stance about Bhagavanji.
Sugata Bose @ Deep Roy : Do not pass communal remarks here please. A request to maintain the sanity of the page by sticking to civil discussion only.
Sugata Bose It's a brilliant piece of philosophical reflection.
Sugata Bose Abhi Aj The body of the greatest sage comes into being and goes back to the elements when its hour on earth is over. But the spirit remains and the message it has delivered lives on and on till it exhausts its terrestrial duration once the energy accompanying it is spent. Then both messiah and message go into hibernation till a fresh influx of energy makes for a rebirth of sorts and, the baton, passed onto another, keeps the flame alive of the Master and his message for mankind. But ''the old man is gone forever, never to return," as Netaji's guide in life, Swami Vivekananda, had famously uttered.
Matter cannot hold on to its degenerate withering form against the will of the person and death of the physical form must necessarily take place one day. Thus, 23 January, 1897 marks the beginning of this epic saga and, unknown though it may be when the terrestrial form of Netaji may have withdrawn from the surface scene of our mundane world, there has to be an end to the physical form once the hour of its departure has arrived.
All things that begin must end and our devotion cannot contain Nature and compel her to act otherwise. But that should not detract from the fact that Netaji was, indeed, a divine personality and worthy in every sense of the worship of his devotees, followers and friends.
Jai Hind !
Sugata Bose Dilip Chakraborty Indeed, provided I was a member of the same. You, my friend are mistaken about my identity. I am not the one you suppose I am. I am not the historian Sugata Bose, Gardiner Professor of Oceanic History and Affairs at Harvard University, TMC's former Parliamentarian, son of Dr. Sisir Bose and Dr. Krishna Bose, grandson of the venerable Sarat Chandra Bose, grandnephew of our Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose -- well, I am not he by the remotest possibility for I am quite another Sugata Bose whose cover and profile picture if you compare with the aforesaid gentleman of international renown, your inattentive observation itself will point out the marked contrast and set me free from you erroneous conception.
So, there you are, my friend, I remain bonded to all of you here but am totally unconnected by blood-bond to the hero's extended family with whom you in error associate me. Stay well, my friend, and serve this group where we all are siblings for the common cause of the regeneration of the motherland in the resurrection of its heroes, preeminent among whom is the leading light of this group page, our beloved leader, Netaji.
Sugata Bose Prasun Dasgupta, please speak here what you said elsewhere, that is, on the NETAJI group through my accidental posting of the message there. You will have occasion here to attack me which you have done on the aforesaid group. I have deleted the post there and offer you the dais here to confront me. In case you choose not to, I shall have to delete this comment of mine in response to your earlier comment elsewhere.
Readers, you must be confused as to what is calling forth this comment of mine but Shree Prasun Dasgupta knows well enough and I await his response to which I will give my befitting reply as and when it comes, though.
And, by the way, this post carries a universal message applicable to all climes and all times and is not intended to carry any political message whatsoever. I am completely an apolitical person and have neither any affiliation to any party's line of thinking nor do I subscribe to any particular political ideology beyond whatever conduces to universal human welfare, my connotation of the human being being defined -- that is, if it at all it is possible to define things with any modicum of accuracy -- as the absolute divinity attempting to manifest its true status through the coarse contours of relativity. Hence, reading too much of politics into an innocent philosophical statement of extreme practical utility will be an exercise in futility and sheer folly.
Sugata Bose Prasun Dasgupta This is a stupendous manifestation of ignorance compounded with arrogance that deserves severest condemnation. And, if indeed your other name is Partha, then you need a sarathi quick to carry you to safety beyond the range of my articulate missiles that needs must be launched to teach you the lesson which you have not learnt as yet owing to negligence on your part in absorbing the codes of civility that determine a gentleman's honour in living.
And by the way, what was it that prompted you to pass that initial sarcasm on my person in the NETAJI group when, to my mind, it was totally uncalled for, a bolt from the blue that had no basis for its volley save in some queer motivation prompting it to which you alone are privy?
Sugata Bose Prasun Dasgupta Juxtaposition of unintelligible words in blind and ignorant imitiation of my linguistic style does not make either for lucid literature nor for communicative language but exposes the audacity to which lack of literacy is culpable to. Hence, desist from making a mockery of your literary skills which by their insensitive exhibition are reducing your status needlessly before readers who will make laughing stock of you.
Sugata Bose Prasun Dasgupta Are you out of your mind? Else, such gibberish is pouring forth from which fertile source, pray, say.
Sugata Bose Prasun Dasgupta The chaos and confusion in your brain stupefies me. I see you self-stumped on every count and vituperating senselessly against me without any rhyme or reason governing your thinking or prompting your verbal articulation thereof. Your arguments are unconnected, language often obscene that ought not to have merited a response in the first place and your motive in so ranting against me plain suspect. I wonder what the fundamental axe is that you grind against me that has so made you unbalanced in such verbal vehemence that you have chosen to let loose like so much loose cannon fired in the wilderness of your wild imaginings. To begin with, there has been so sanity on your part to start your offensive against me since any civil discussion begins on introductory not from past reference point of no consequence today. Moreover, your knowledge of history or its paucity, and your analyses thereof, chaotically moving between Netaji and Sri Aurobindo with all their references in relation to the former's alliance with imperial Nippon and the latter's repudiation of it is a trifle bewildering for they are slanted, shallow and superficial with the story siding with the Aurobindo viewpoint but failing to highlight the Bose brainwave which must have prompted the hero to have adopted the strategic line that he chose. I have written elaborately on the said confrontation between the two greats regarding this issue where sufficient rationalisation on the entire episode has been done by me, upholding the respective cases, the series of essays having evidently essayed past you to leave you thus in ill-informed misjudgement about my stated position thereof. I wonder, since this debate is hotting up between unknown adversaries, you would care to continue your babble on the NETAJI group hereon. As of now, yours has been a singular case of youthful exhibition of rant, remonstrance and rehearsed reproach targeting me for some compelling motive you are best privy to.
Sugata Bose Prasun Dasgupta You are an incorrigible young man with a bent of mind that is positively bent and in a negative manner at that. I fail to comprehend the focus of your frustration with me. Or is it a frustration with life in general that makes you thus engage in fruitless vitriol against me? You write incoherently at times, coherently at other times so that the meaning comes clearer but your intent is unknown to me. What afflicts you so, that your behaviour is so anomalous, passes my imagination. However, if this is the way you will waste your youthful hours engaging in mindless debates with imaginary adversaries, then you are not only worth pity but need intellectual and philosophical assistance from saner minds like me to get you back on track. Since I am unavailable for this onerous task of relocating your sanity, it were better that you seek the help of others who are better possessed of sanity, civility and rationality that your arrogant self.
Sugata Bose Prasun Dasgupta : So, you want to have the last laugh. So, have it by all means, for the joke is yours and the joker you are and 'all's well that ends well' so long as it is 'a comedy of errors'. Locking horns with your articulate gibberish was akin to immersion in a 'midsummer night's dream' that had lost its bearings in 'the tempest' of intemperate verbal delusions. And after all this fussilade of words aimed at me, your arsenal of intelligible and unintelligible sonic formations got exhausted and where fight could not save you, you took to flight. Adieu, friend, adieu !
Sugata Bose Diganta Sengupta 'Inscrutable are the ways of the Lord.' So says the Holy Bible, and so are the ways of this modern God of India and of suppressed and oppressed humanity, for inscrutable are his ways, too, indecipherable even his explicit expressions, loaded as they are with meanings that run their life and term in multiple layers of individual and collective consciousness.
Sugata Bose Diganta Sengupta, read this expanding and evolving piece which would have taken reams to write were it not for the facility of the screen and the keypad.
Sugata Bose Swaraj S Have they sought my cooperation ever or are they now seeking so through you and your aforesaid proposal? Are you speaking in your individual capacity or are you speaking on their behalf?
Sugata Bose Swaraj S That's alright. But I have reservations about your statement. I feel the Jayashree group have historically done and are doing till date much more. Moreover, I am not in agreement with many of their stated positions regarding the disappearance issue. Also, they subscribe to Netaji's marriage and progeny which is highly debatable and controversial to my thinking.
Sugata Bose Swaraj S The aircrash theory has crashed post the publication of the JMCI Report. Regarding the marriage issue, what evidence can they cite? And what evidence of Bhagavanji's death in 1985? Evidence? Where's their evidence, credible and clear?
Sugata Bose Swaraj S But you said they have based their assertions on the basis of evidence. Where's the evidence for 1) marriage 2) death of Bhagavanji in 1985 and 3) PTSD?
Sugata Bose Swaraj S I think you are, like many others, confusing me for the historian Sugata Bose of the extended Netaji Bose family. Well, I am not he but am another Sugata Bose of another lineage that has no blood-bond to Netaji Bose's family.
Sugata Bose Swaraj S Grand nephew you ought to call him, not grandchild unless, of course, you say so in figurative terms.
Sugata Bose Swaraj S I think they have sufficient support for they have their stellar group working and their satellites orbiting them.
Sugata Bose Swaraj S The UP Government may have asserted death of Bhagavanji in 1985 but have merely done so without furnishing proof of any kind whatsoever. You ought to do better research to know that Anuj Dhar has publicly stated and it is on YouTube that he accepts Netaji's marriage as a fact since he subscribes to what Sarat Chandra Bose had apparently said on this issue which, by the way, is highly debatable and inconsistent, too, with contrary claims to his stated position thereof.
Sugata Bose Tamoghna Das Sharma Good book. No, not quite negative as one might expect when it comes from a British MI 5 agent. Overall, crisp, concise, condensed and copious, quite an informative and unbiased book. Of course, if you are looking for eulogies on Netaji, you will be disappointed here.
Sugata Bose But he was our first Prime Minister and that, too, of undivided India. Unfortunate, yes, that it did not last for long as he disappeared into the mist post 17 August, 1945.
Sugata Bose Somesh Bhattacharya Please contribute your write-ups, of course upholding the truth as you see it, so that this page becomes a platform for genuine intellectual discussion on Netaji and the freedom movement. In it lies the welfare of the cause of this group that is in point of principle wholly and in practice largely dedicated.
Sugata Bose Diganta Sengupta, read this expanding and evolving piece which would have taken reams to write were it not for the facility of the screen and the keypad.
Sugata Bose Who are you talking about? And why address a human being as a pig, my friend?
Sugata Bose Swaraj S Oh, who did? So, let him laugh. Individual liberty. Laughter makes the facial muscles active and better toned. It keeps blood pressure down. Ignore these gestures unless they become positively distasteful. Perhaps, the said gentleman may not have understood the import of the essay. It can also be that it was made by mistake. Rather, let us move on to better rumination on Netaji and the revolutionaries for freedom.
Sugata Bose Nothing whatsoever. A mere conviction of Nehru based on some rational inference pertaining to the then cited circumstantial evidence. Today, we can laugh at such conjecture for the very same reason, the lack of circumstantial evidence.
Sugata Bose Rather build Netaji's image through careful study of his life and message. Our actions must be positive, never negatively wasteful.
Sugata Bose Perfect. Please give some write-ups of your own and embellish this group page.
Sugata Bose How are these two so sure about Bhagavanji's death in August, 1985 when there is no documentary proof of the same? How are these two subscribing to the concocted tale of Netaji's marriage and progeny when there is no evidence to support the tale whatsoever? Has convenience got the better of conviction or are there other compulsions as well, no less among which must be the need to keep certain quarters happy? And how did they come to their understanding of PTSD having affected Bhagavanji when they have neither met him ever nor gone by what those who have met the saint have had to say on it? Is Netaji now free market commodity that anybody and everybody can say what he feels about him? Is this not insulting the hero which ought to be considered by ardent devotees as veritable sacrilege, especially when such narratives gain national currency in no time owing to the popularity of these protagonists? Please consider these contentious issues and the way the hero's spotless image is being tarnished thus in all manner and from so many quarters, a state which calls for the severest condemnation. If what they state are true, then they are free to do so but if it comes to passing off mere conjecture as gospel truth even in a film which goes by their convictions and assertions, is it not commerce that has got the better of truth-telling? I leave it to you all to ponder these pertinent points and come to your own conclusions.
Sugata Bose Riya Bhattacharya Depends whether we are Englishmen or not, or, if not so and we are Indians, whether we deem ourselves to belong to the majority or not.
Sugata Bose
Udayan Sengupta Nice of you to respond thus but my response has here been only to the points pertinent to the post. As for governmental motives, I am not privy to such and can merely like you make my conjectures about them, even vent my frustrations thereof. Beyond that I have not attempted anything more in this response. Hope to address them suitably in some future elaborate post with better reflection on the imperatives that must have prompted this perfidious course of sustained suppression of relevant facts by the government. Anyhow, thanks once again and keep up with the conference.
Sugata Bose @Sudipta Chowdhary
Dear member,
Do not be presumptuous thus in your affirmations with scant understanding as to the import of what the author has said. Cogitate deep, meditate, if necessary, to arrive at a clarified comprehension before you hazard such peremptory remark. Hope to see you in a brighter frame of mind to rationalise what the author is now saying.
Also, do not attempt to politicise this group page. This page is on Netaji and for the propagation of the history of the freedom struggle in its true contour and colour and not as it has been thus far construed and presented before the public by heretical historians serving the political dispensation at the helm of affairs.
To level charges without proper understanding of the intent of a post does you a disservice that you would fain be willing to accept. Hence, serve the cause in the rightful spirit and desist from presumptuous peremptory preaching. Of course, for good measure, you may as well allege that the author himself is culpable to the same offence. If so, then the conditions ought to apply to the author as well. But in his capacity as administrator of the group, he will be obliged to discharge his duties thus, periodically, from which there may be no reprieve for him.
Thanking you, Sugata Bose [Administrator]
Sugata Bose Asit Guin Please contribute your posts to this group. Contrary opinion is necessary for discussion, deliberation and debate. Otherwise, this page will become a monotone.
Indeed, this should be done and it is long due. The army of liberation was discredited and the soldiers denied pension by the Nehruvian dispensation till Indira Gandhi took the necessary measures to undo this terrible travesty of fairness and justice, leave aside gratitude to the liberators and being one with them. Even today, despite tall protestations to the contrary, the present government merely does token service to the cause and not enough in terms of adopting adequate measures to uphold Netaji, his ideology of national integration and reconstruction and his and, above all, his supreme objective of forming a super powerful army for the defence of independent India out of the volunteers to his cause of armed revolution for the liberation of India. Netaji had exhorted the soldiers of the INA to fight for India's freedom in a manner that those who would survive the war could bank on the wartime experience to provide the same for India's future national army. All these hopes of the liberator of India were but belied as Jawaharlal Nehru and his Congress collaborators conspired with the Allied Powers to allow the dismemberment of India and the settling in for a partitioned dominion status under the British Crown with its corresponding membership to the British Commonwealth of Nations. The scars of Partition we still bear and our army rejoices in its heritage of martial glory while in service to the coloniser British. Therefore, if there be a semblance of self-respect left in the children of our much ravaged motherland, we ought to forthwith come out of the Commonwealth and follow it up with the necessary patriotic actions that will truly make our liberation from British stranglehold a reality and not an eyewash as craftily planned by the British and executed by the characterless Congress prior to 1947 and clung to for unknown reasons by governmental dispensations thereafter till date. May the renaming of the Indian Army as the Indian National Army as Netaji had done be the primary steps taken towards fulfilment of the hero's dreams of a renascent India and with it may self-respect return to Indians, long deluded by an international conspiracy of epic proportions ! And with it may our soldiers, 26000 of them, who died in the jungles of Burma and in the hills of Manipur, and thousands more who perished in transit camps at Jhikargachha, Neelgunge and Barasat, be resurrected from their ashes and from the dust of the grave unto the sunshine of a nation's tearful final farewell, long lying in wait ! May we all unite to pile up pressure on the Government to take cognisance of this demand of ours and do the needful to redress this longstanding injustice and may our movement by conjoined action ever build up in strength and the capacity to make changes ! Jai Hind !Sugata Bose
Sambuddha Mukhopadhyay, it is time to defend your post, although shared from somewhere else. Else, you are creating mere nuisance and not actually provoking a discussion. You need to now come out and answer the points thrown at you, although, you may claim that the post has not been penned by you. But it can always to the contrary be said that you have shared it on this group page with full knowledge about its volatile critical content and, therefore, ought now to show some spine and defend the same.Sugata Bose
Indeed. You have so succinctly said it, Parashuram Purushottam.Sugata Bose Not quite. Just a provocative assertion on my part to trigger discussion for better clarity on the relative attributes of the duo. But the move, not mischievous by any means whatsoever, as some have suggested, but made by way of sincere seeking to know more and also to find out where the polity stands on this issue, backfired, nay, boomeranged on me to catch me napping but in the process did me the greatest service to arrive at an analytical and synthetic understanding of the profundity of the Netaji-mind which with further reading is by the day confirming that the people at large are not always worse off in conception of certain essential features of the seminal greats than the so-called intellectuals abounding in society who are more often than not culpable to devious reasoning and dispersed understanding of them and, in consequence, a fractured conception of history which the common man in his applied common sense is not prone to somehow. Anyhow, the move may have backfired but it has opened up for me a wealth of treasures lying hidden in books and writings which I have not laid my hands on for quite some time and which now needs the act of opening up for my consciousness to open up with it. May the greats of the past bless me with understanding and fulfil my life, so help me God ! May Netaji sit rightly adorned in the midst of my heart and guide me unto fresher understanding of history and all its ilk !
Neeta Banerjee My dear Sugata Bose,
Your answer to my query is admirable, indeed.Yes, more than a slight indignance, it was an innocently questioning attitude which prompted my to write those words. Your assertion about Jawaharlal Nehru's intellectual superiority somehow smelt of your conviction of the same.I wished to find out the reasons behind anybody's conviction in the matter. Netaji will always cause a tussle between heart & mind in our hearts. So let the arguments continue..!!
Neeta Banerjee This "thrust and parry " in 'fencing' language, is not only insurmountably interesting, it also encourages a multi dimensional aspect to the topic under discussion. Looking forward to your posts, as usual. My best wishes to you.
Sugata Bose Thank you. A reader won is a million tonne and a post furnished with frolic and fun.
Sugata Bose
Keep asking them please and we shall try to answer them to the extent our knowledge can stretch to provide such solutions. This mystery is seemingly unsolvable but asking the right questions will help set our direction right towards arriving at plausible theories and probable answers. So, let the queries flood the page.Sugata Bose 'Supreme leader with supreme sacrifice' -- so beautifully said it, almost a quotable quote from now on. Tridib Ghosh, you have paid the hero a masterful homage in articulate terms. Our like sacrifice in whatever small measure for the cause of the resurrection of the memory and attainments of our revolutionaries, prince among whom remains our leader of immeasurable greatness and unfathomable love for the motherland, now must call out the best in us and set the wheel of freedom rolling yet again unto the high noon of national renaissance.
Sugata Bose
Indeed, in the history of the world he remains almost nonpareil.Sugata Bose
You are my great inspiration, Diganta. Netaji is evidently with you, I feel, for you are simply saturated with his spirit. You, Diganta, are emblematic of what the youth in India ought to be, what the revolutionaries had hoped future citizenry in young India would be, and what was the choicest aspiration of your life's hero in declarations galore from various fora in those bygone days of repressed but revolting India against British oppression. Carry on with your mission and we are all there with you to hold the staff of this ever-unfurling flag of freedom.Sugata Bose
This is an original name and I heartily commend you for it. But the vast number of followers of Netaji seem to have already decided on remembering this anniversary of the hero's birth as 'Desh Prem Divas' which alliterates well as well. However, such original ideas as you float keep the discussion alive and for good measure, too.The name 'Hero's Day' is terse, apt and in keeping with all the other names such as 'Teacher's Day', Children's Day, 'Martyr's Day', 'Independence Day', 'Republic Day' and the like. Hence, your subscription to it is pertinent and worth considering as well. However, I feel, the dominant mood of the day is for 'Desh Prem Divas' which is in Hindi and will, therefore, hold its ground among the masses better who will somehow attach nationalism more with it than the appropriate name you so timely suggest.
Sugata Bose
Diganta Sengupta Your humility is befitting of your commitment to the cause and will save me from the charge of some that I am being over-indulgent to one who as yet is in his blossoming years of unfolding maturity.Sugata Bose
Please contribute posts and observations then in copious quantity.Sugata Bose I am not the one you suppose I am. First get your facts correct.Sugata Bose
Bhaskar Rao Please understand that you are thoroughly mistaken about my identity. To put its straight since you seem to harbour an erroneous impression about my person, I am not the historian-politician former Parliamentarian Prof. Sugata Bose, Gardiner Professor of Harvard University, who also happens to be Netaji's grand nephew, but am quite another Sugata Bose, a completely apolitical person of far humbler attainments and totally unconnected by blood-bond to the extended Netaji family, and am happy to be so.Sugata Bose
I am not the one you suppose I am. First get your facts correct.Sugata Bose
Bhaskar Rao Please understand that you are thoroughly mistaken about my identity. To put it straight, since you seem to be harbouring an erroneous impression about my person, I am not the historian-politician former Parliamentarian Prof. Sugata Bose, Gardiner Professor of Harvard University, who also happens to be Netaji's grand nephew, but am quite another Sugata Bose, a completely apolitical person of far humbler attainments and totally unconnected by blood-bond to the extended Netaji family, and am happy to be so.Sugata Bose
Bhaskar Rao For a change let me hear from you what your perceptions are regarding the questions posited by you.Sugata Bose
But Anuj Dhar claims that Bhagavanji suffered from PTSD. How about that? Moreover, he subscribes to the fact that Netaji had been married and had fathered a daughter which is at complete variance with what Bhagavanji had said about Netaji. If Bhagavanji was Netaji post return to India and living as monk incognito, as Anuj Dhar believes and vociferously propagates, then ought he not to know better about his own earthly affairs than a future fractional follower of his who conveniently believes what suits him and rejects where he is in a spot of bother, to make all ends meet? How about that? PTSD is a convenient way to explain all supposed anomalies of the narrative and is, to devotees of Bhagavanji-Netaji, a gross insult to his hallowed person. How about that as well?Sugata Bose
I have no idea. It was telecast on DD National this afternoon and re-telecast tonight. Simply a historical heresy, an outrageous movie that is distasteful to a degree, to put it in euphemistic terms.Sugata Bose
The comparison must be done for better clarity in comprehension. After all, despite differences, they were both engaged in the task of freeing India from colonial consequence. Hence, the comparison is absolutely valid, to my mind, and deserves utmost and careful scrutiny to arrive at a better understanding of the history of the freedom movement. History, remember, thrives through such comparisons, contrasting though historical characters may be. In fact, all knowledge that humans get to know is by such a mode of comparison, including the very perception of this differentiated world. But that is a long story and I will cut it short by appreciating your viewpoint and cogitating on it duly. Thank you for responding with due diligence. Please continue to enlighten us with such original observations as this.Sugata Bose Rajendra Kundu Gandhi is being exposed fair and square by recent investigations into British colonial history.
Sugata Bose
PTSD is the abbreviated form of 'Post Traumatic Stress Disorder'. It means that a person suffering from extreme stress undergoes a nervous disorder which makes him behave in a certain erratic manner where he is prone to hallucinating. This is a psychological aberration brought about by terrible third degree torture inflicted on a person which leads to a permanent impairment of his nervous organisation and lends him to fantasising impossible attainments.Such a feature is noticeable in Bhagavanji, Mission Netaji members note, where he talks of military missions conducted by him which, to their mind, are virtually impossible. To rationalise the whole affair and yet to cling to their conviction that Bhagavanji was Netaji living the renunciate's life incognito, they have introduced this medical element to the case which has injured the sentiments of ardent devotees of Subhas-Netaji-Bhagavanji-Mahakaal for whom such belittling of their idol is offence unforgivable. Mission Netaji's proposition has taken the likes of venerable Bijoy Nag, Madhusudan Pal, Keshab Bhattacherjee and other notables by surprise to begin with and indignation thereafter. According to them, Bhagavanji was absolutely possessed of his faculties and showed no signs of possible derangement that ought to prompt such an aspersion on him.
Whether Bhagavanji was/is Netaji Is upto individual conviction and claim, especially after the Sahay Commission has categorically rejected this proposition. The Commission has concluded that Gumnami Baba, alias Bhagavanji, was an ardent follower of Netaji but not Netaji himself.
There are divisions among the proponents of Bhagavanji being Netaji with sharp differences in their status towards the venerable monk. One group (Jayashree) claims that Netaji is alive and active in a supernal plane even today as Mahakaal and that he will appear before all, if he so feems it fit, when the times are ripe. Another group (Mission Netaji) claims that Bhagavanji died on 16 August, 1985 at Faizabad and was cremated at Guptar Ghat, Ayodhya. This latter group also subscribes to the belief that Netaji had married his Austrian secretary, Emilie Schenkl and fathered a daughter, Anita, an assertion which the former group considers heretical and worthy of the strongest condemnation.
Now there are allegations by many that commercial considerations are ruining genuine research into the the disappearance mystery and those that are in the limelight are making a quick buck by selling fanciful stories in the market of popular consumption. Thus, serious research is missing and conclusions are drawn about Netaji post August 1945 that often have neither rational rigour of argument nor sufficient legally tenable data or evidence. Were such available, the mystery would have been solved long ago in a law court and inconclusive inferences would not sully discussion and never-ending debate on the whole affair. Parties on all sides have their respective narratives by way of insufficient explanation which leaves the subject open to endless conjecture without definitive conclusion. Now you are free as well to be convinced this way or that, or to be hanging in mid-air in a state of animated suspense, if you are an optimist yet and awaiting a closure to the issue at last, or disgusted by the murkiness of the ongoing chaotic deliberations online and resigned to the fact that this affair will forever remain a mystery like so many other disappearances,namely, that of Meera Bai, Kabir, Chaitanya Mahaprabhu and Nana Saheb.
Sugata Bose
Pranab Jana You are mistaken about my identity as so many others, through no fault of mine, are. I am not the historian Sugata Bose you allude to but am quite another Sugata Bose who is totally unconnected to Netaji's extended family by blood-bond. I am apolitical completely, am not a historian except in terms of amateurish dabbling with facts and fancies of history, and only share a copious interest with my namesake in Netaji and the revolutionaries for freedom. So now that the cards are on the table and confusion is clarified, let us debate whatever propositions I have laid bare before you regarding Anuj Dhar's stance about Bhagavanji.Sugata Bose
@ Deep Roy : Do not pass communal remarks here please. A request to maintain the sanity of the page by sticking to civil discussion only.Sugata Bose
It's a brilliant piece of philosophical reflection.Sugata Bose
Abhi Aj The body of the greatest sage comes into being and goes back to the elements when its hour on earth is over. But the spirit remains and the message it has delivered lives on and on till it exhausts its terrestrial duration once the energy accompanying it is spent. Then both messiah and message go into hibernation till a fresh influx of energy makes for a rebirth of sorts and, the baton, passed onto another, keeps the flame alive of the Master and his message for mankind. But ''the old man is gone forever, never to return," as Netaji's guide in life, Swami Vivekananda, had famously uttered.Matter cannot hold on to its degenerate withering form against the will of the person and death of the physical form must necessarily take place one day. Thus, 23 January, 1897 marks the beginning of this epic saga and, unknown though it may be when the terrestrial form of Netaji may have withdrawn from the surface scene of our mundane world, there has to be an end to the physical form once the hour of its departure has arrived.
All things that begin must end and our devotion cannot contain Nature and compel her to act otherwise. But that should not detract from the fact that Netaji was, indeed, a divine personality and worthy in every sense of the worship of his devotees, followers and friends.
Jai Hind !
Sugata Bose
Dilip Chakraborty Indeed, provided I was a member of the same. You, my friend are mistaken about my identity. I am not the one you suppose I am. I am not the historian Sugata Bose, Gardiner Professor of Oceanic History and Affairs at Harvard University, TMC's former Parliamentarian, son of Dr. Sisir Bose and Dr. Krishna Bose, grandson of the venerable Sarat Chandra Bose, grandnephew of our Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose -- well, I am not he by the remotest possibility for I am quite another Sugata Bose whose cover and profile picture if you compare with the aforesaid gentleman of international renown, your inattentive observation itself will point out the marked contrast and set me free from you erroneous conception.So, there you are, my friend, I remain bonded to all of you here but am totally unconnected by blood-bond to the hero's extended family with whom you in error associate me. Stay well, my friend, and serve this group where we all are siblings for the common cause of the regeneration of the motherland in the resurrection of its heroes, preeminent among whom is the leading light of this group page, our beloved leader, Netaji.
Sugata Bose Prasun Dasgupta, please speak here what you said elsewhere, that is, on the NETAJI group through my accidental posting of the message there. You will have occasion here to attack me which you have done on the aforesaid group. I have deleted the post there and offer you the dais here to confront me. In case you choose not to, I shall have to delete this comment of mine in response to your earlier comment elsewhere.
Readers, you must be confused as to what is calling forth this comment of mine but Shree Prasun Dasgupta knows well enough and I await his response to which I will give my befitting reply as and when it comes, though.
And, by the way, this post carries a universal message applicable to all climes and all times and is not intended to carry any political message whatsoever. I am completely an apolitical person and have neither any affiliation to any party's line of thinking nor do I subscribe to any particular political ideology beyond whatever conduces to universal human welfare, my connotation of the human being being defined -- that is, if it at all it is possible to define things with any modicum of accuracy -- as the absolute divinity attempting to manifest its true status through the coarse contours of relativity. Hence, reading too much of politics into an innocent philosophical statement of extreme practical utility will be an exercise in futility and sheer folly.
Sugata Bose Prasun Dasgupta This is a stupendous manifestation of ignorance compounded with arrogance that deserves severest condemnation. And, if indeed your other name is Partha, then you need a sarathi quick to carry you to safety beyond the range of my articulate missiles that needs must be launched to teach you the lesson which you have not learnt as yet owing to negligence on your part in absorbing the codes of civility that determine a gentleman's honour in living.
And by the way, what was it that prompted you to pass that initial sarcasm on my person in the NETAJI group when, to my mind, it was totally uncalled for, a bolt from the blue that had no basis for its volley save in some queer motivation prompting it to which you alone are privy?
Sugata Bose Prasun Dasgupta Juxtaposition of unintelligible words in blind and ignorant imitiation of my linguistic style does not make either for lucid literature nor for communicative language but exposes the audacity to which lack of literacy is culpable to. Hence, desist from making a mockery of your literary skills which by their insensitive exhibition are reducing your status needlessly before readers who will make laughing stock of you.
Sugata Bose Prasun Dasgupta Are you out of your mind? Else, such gibberish is pouring forth from which fertile source, pray, say.
Sugata Bose Prasun Dasgupta The chaos and confusion in your brain stupefies me. I see you self-stumped on every count and vituperating senselessly against me without any rhyme or reason governing your thinking or prompting your verbal articulation thereof. Your arguments are unconnected, language often obscene that ought not to have merited a response in the first place and your motive in so ranting against me plain suspect. I wonder what the fundamental axe is that you grind against me that has so made you unbalanced in such verbal vehemence that you have chosen to let loose like so much loose cannon fired in the wilderness of your wild imaginings. To begin with, there has been so sanity on your part to start your offensive against me since any civil discussion begins on introductory not from past reference point of no consequence today. Moreover, your knowledge of history or its paucity, and your analyses thereof, chaotically moving between Netaji and Sri Aurobindo with all their references in relation to the former's alliance with imperial Nippon and the latter's repudiation of it is a trifle bewildering for they are slanted, shallow and superficial with the story siding with the Aurobindo viewpoint but failing to highlight the Bose brainwave which must have prompted the hero to have adopted the strategic line that he chose. I have written elaborately on the said confrontation between the two greats regarding this issue where sufficient rationalisation on the entire episode has been done by me, upholding the respective cases, the series of essays having evidently essayed past you to leave you thus in ill-informed misjudgement about my stated position thereof. I wonder, since this debate is hotting up between unknown adversaries, you would care to continue your babble on the NETAJI group hereon. As of now, yours has been a singular case of youthful exhibition of rant, remonstrance and rehearsed reproach targeting me for some compelling motive you are best privy to.
Sugata Bose Prasun Dasgupta You are an incorrigible young man with a bent of mind that is positively bent and in a negative manner at that. I fail to comprehend the focus of your frustration with me. Or is it a frustration with life in general that makes you thus engage in fruitless vitriol against me? You write incoherently at times, coherently at other times so that the meaning comes clearer but your intent is unknown to me. What afflicts you so, that your behaviour is so anomalous, passes my imagination. However, if this is the way you will waste your youthful hours engaging in mindless debates with imaginary adversaries, then you are not only worth pity but need intellectual and philosophical assistance from saner minds like me to get you back on track. Since I am unavailable for this onerous task of relocating your sanity, it were better that you seek the help of others who are better possessed of sanity, civility and rationality that your arrogant self.
Sugata Bose Prasun Dasgupta : So, you want to have the last laugh. So, have it by all means, for the joke is yours and the joker you are and 'all's well that ends well' so long as it is 'a comedy of errors'. Locking horns with your articulate gibberish was akin to immersion in a 'midsummer night's dream' that had lost its bearings in 'the tempest' of intemperate verbal delusions. And after all this fussilade of words aimed at me, your arsenal of intelligible and unintelligible sonic formations got exhausted and where fight could not save you, you took to flight. Adieu, friend, adieu !
Sugata Bose
Diganta Sengupta 'Inscrutable are the ways of the Lord.' So says the Holy Bible, and so are the ways of this modern God of India and of suppressed and oppressed humanity, for inscrutable are his ways, too, indecipherable even his explicit expressions, loaded as they are with meanings that run their life and term in multiple layers of individual and collective consciousness.Sugata Bose
Diganta Sengupta, read this expanding and evolving piece which would have taken reams to write were it not for the facility of the screen and the keypad.Sugata Bose
Swaraj S Have they sought my cooperation ever or are they now seeking so through you and your aforesaid proposal? Are you speaking in your individual capacity or are you speaking on their behalf?Sugata Bose
Swaraj S That's alright. But I have reservations about your statement. I feel the Jayashree group have historically done and are doing till date much more. Moreover, I am not in agreement with many of their stated positions regarding the disappearance issue. Also, they subscribe to Netaji's marriage and progeny which is highly debatable and controversial to my thinking.Sugata Bose
Swaraj S The aircrash theory has crashed post the publication of the JMCI Report. Regarding the marriage issue, what evidence can they cite? And what evidence of Bhagavanji's death in 1985? Evidence? Where's their evidence, credible and clear?Sugata Bose
Swaraj S But you said they have based their assertions on the basis of evidence. Where's the evidence for 1) marriage 2) death of Bhagavanji in 1985 and 3) PTSD?Sugata Bose
Swaraj S I think you are, like many others, confusing me for the historian Sugata Bose of the extended Netaji Bose family. Well, I am not he but am another Sugata Bose of another lineage that has no blood-bond to Netaji Bose's family.Sugata Bose
Swaraj S Grand nephew you ought to call him, not grandchild unless, of course, you say so in figurative terms.Sugata Bose
Swaraj S I think they have sufficient support for they have their stellar group working and their satellites orbiting them.Sugata Bose
Swaraj S The UP Government may have asserted death of Bhagavanji in 1985 but have merely done so without furnishing proof of any kind whatsoever. You ought to do better research to know that Anuj Dhar has publicly stated and it is on YouTube that he accepts Netaji's marriage as a fact since he subscribes to what Sarat Chandra Bose had apparently said on this issue which, by the way, is highly debatable and inconsistent, too, with contrary claims to his stated position thereof.Sugata Bose
Tamoghna Das Sharma Good book. No, not quite negative as one might expect when it comes from a British MI 5 agent. Overall, crisp, concise, condensed and copious, quite an informative and unbiased book. Of course, if you are looking for eulogies on Netaji, you will be disappointed here.Sugata Bose
But he was our first Prime Minister and that, too, of undivided India. Unfortunate, yes, that it did not last for long as he disappeared into the mist post 17 August, 1945.Sugata Bose
Somesh Bhattacharya Please contribute your write-ups, of course upholding the truth as you see it, so that this page becomes a platform for genuine intellectual discussion on Netaji and the freedom movement. In it lies the welfare of the cause of this group that is in point of principle wholly and in practice largely dedicated.Sugata Bose
Diganta Sengupta, read this expanding and evolving piece which would have taken reams to write were it not for the facility of the screen and the keypad.Sugata Bose
Who are you talking about? And why address a human being as a pig, my friend?Sugata Bose
Swaraj S Oh, who did? So, let him laugh. Individual liberty. Laughter makes the facial muscles active and better toned. It keeps blood pressure down. Ignore these gestures unless they become positively distasteful. Perhaps, the said gentleman may not have understood the import of the essay. It can also be that it was made by mistake. Rather, let us move on to better rumination on Netaji and the revolutionaries for freedom.Sugata Bose
Nothing whatsoever. A mere conviction of Nehru based on some rational inference pertaining to the then cited circumstantial evidence. Today, we can laugh at such conjecture for the very same reason, the lack of circumstantial evidence.Sugata Bose
Rather build Netaji's image through careful study of his life and message. Our actions must be positive, never negatively wasteful.Sugata Bose
Perfect. Please give some write-ups of your own and embellish this group page.Sugata Bose
How are these two so sure about Bhagavanji's death in August, 1985 when there is no documentary proof of the same? How are these two subscribing to the concocted tale of Netaji's marriage and progeny when there is no evidence to support the tale whatsoever? Has convenience got the better of conviction or are there other compulsions as well, no less among which must be the need to keep certain quarters happy? And how did they come to their understanding of PTSD having affected Bhagavanji when they have neither met him ever nor gone by what those who have met the saint have had to say on it? Is Netaji now free market commodity that anybody and everybody can say what he feels about him? Is this not insulting the hero which ought to be considered by ardent devotees as veritable sacrilege, especially when such narratives gain national currency in no time owing to the popularity of these protagonists? Please consider these contentious issues and the way the hero's spotless image is being tarnished thus in all manner and from so many quarters, a state which calls for the severest condemnation. If what they state are true, then they are free to do so but if it comes to passing off mere conjecture as gospel truth even in a film which goes by their convictions and assertions, is it not commerce that has got the better of truth-telling? I leave it to you all to ponder these pertinent points and come to your own conclusions.Sugata Bose Riya Bhattacharya Depends whether we are Englishmen or not, or, if not so and we are Indians, whether we deem ourselves to belong to the majority or not.
Sugata Bose
Udayan Sengupta Nice of you to respond thus but my response has here been only to the points pertinent to the post. As for governmental motives, I am not privy to such and can merely like you make my conjectures about them, even vent my frustrations thereof. Beyond that I have not attempted anything more in this response. Hope to address them suitably in some future elaborate post with better reflection on the imperatives that must have prompted this perfidious course of sustained suppression of relevant facts by the government. Anyhow, thanks once again and keep up with the conference.Sugata Bose
@Sudipta ChowdharyDear member,
Do not be presumptuous thus in your affirmations with scant understanding as to the import of what the author has said. Cogitate deep, meditate, if necessary, to arrive at a clarified comprehension before you hazard such peremptory remark. Hope to see you in a brighter frame of mind to rationalise what the author is now saying.
Also, do not attempt to politicise this group page. This page is on Netaji and for the propagation of the history of the freedom struggle in its true contour and colour and not as it has been thus far construed and presented before the public by heretical historians serving the political dispensation at the helm of affairs.
To level charges without proper understanding of the intent of a post does you a disservice that you would fain be willing to accept. Hence, serve the cause in the rightful spirit and desist from presumptuous peremptory preaching. Of course, for good measure, you may as well allege that the author himself is culpable to the same offence. If so, then the conditions ought to apply to the author as well. But in his capacity as administrator of the group, he will be obliged to discharge his duties thus, periodically, from which there may be no reprieve for him.
Thanking you, Sugata Bose [Administrator]
Sugata Bose
Asit Guin Please contribute your posts to this group. Contrary opinion is necessary for discussion, deliberation and debate. Otherwise, this page will become a monotone.
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