Sunday, 27 April 2025

COMMENTS GALORE ... 85


COMMENTS GALORE ... 85


Sugata Bose @Arpita Nandi Das : সঙ্ঘবদ্ধ হওয়া অবশ্যই আবশ্যক কিন্তু সত্যকে জলাঞ্জলি দিয়ে নয় | সত্যে আনুগত্য সঙ্ঘের ঊর্ধ্বে | নইলে সঙ্ঘগত পচনকে প্রশ্রয় দেওয়া হয় যা বৌদ্ধ সঙ্ঘে ঘটেছিল যার বিষক্রিয়া ভারতের ধমনীতে অনুপ্রবিষ্ট হয়ে বামাচারে দেশের সর্বনাশ সাধন করেছিল একদা যার কুফল হতে আমরা আজও মুক্ত হতে পারিনি | তাই সত্য ও সঙ্ঘের সংঘর্ষে সত্যকে বেছে নেওয়াই শ্রেয় | এতে সঙ্ঘশোধন হয়ে সঙ্ঘরক্ষা হয় | কিন্তু যাঁরা সঙ্ঘগত বিরাট বিচ্যূতি দেখেও চুপ থাকেন ও প্রত্যক্ষ এবং পরোক্ষ সমর্থন দিয়ে যান সেই বিপথগামীতার, তাঁরা সঙ্ঘের ধ্বংসই ত্বরান্বিত করেন তাঁদের দুরাচারী সমর্থনের দ্বারা |


Sugata Bose @Paramhansa Shikshangan English Classes : Your regret or lack of it is inconsequential to the Catholic Church and its very many sister sects. Christianity in general and its numerous sectarian derivatives do not subscribe to any other deity besides Jesus Christ as worship-worthy in the highest sense. Christ is in their faith the one and only Way to Salvation and non-Christians are doomed to hell. Hence, they will never worship Sri Ramakrishna however much they see the Ramakrishna Mission adoring Christ. It is a one-way traffic never to be reciprocated. And in some sense it raises the esteem of dogmatic Christianity in Hindu eyes even as Christian evangelism continues to exploit such weakness on the part of Hindus to convert them. How far the Ramakrishna Mission's adoration of Christ---in more recent years in hyperdrive during Christmas---is contributing to ease of evangelism in India is difficult to ascertain, though, as there is no statistical or sociological study available on it, so far as I know. 🕉 Hindu !


Sugata Bose @Ramen Banerjee : And what is progressive secularism when secularism itself is bound by material limits self-imposed by definition? This as per the European definition of it in original terms. However, if you choose to mean by secularism only the separation of Church and State, so to say, then it is a different matter altogether. But even then progressive secularism remains mired in materialism as its concerns are purely earthly and modern European history bears ample testimony to it. In so far as Indian secularism is concerned, it has never been progressive as democracy has always carried with it the electoral baggage which has seen political parties woo voters by religious appeasement that has undone what was earlier deemed progressive secularism. For secularism to obtain, the very materialistic essence of it must be given scope for fulfilment but that may lead to some progress before coming to the dead end of materialistic welfare and in its wake psychological frustration which will hardly be progressive in summation. A catch 22 situation, you see.


Sugata Bose @Arnab Bhattacharya : I understood it but chose to harp on further on the cited Qur'anic verse on science by way of highlighting a side point. After all, bigoted adherence to scripture that is already bigoted to the core is also a flattened version of reason and sanity in a spatially curved objective reality. And that itself is adherence to sangha (here organised religion/faith) and not so to satya (truth).


Sugata Bose @Xavier Romero Frias : Better read and clear conception. Avoidance for centuries has led the world to where it is with respect to jihad. Read, reflect, realise, then react. Alongside read Sitaram Goel and Ram Swarup (Voice of India Publications).


Sugata Bose @Asit Baran Ray : Islam teaches how and when to kill the mushrik. Surah At-Tauba's (Surah 9) ayat 5, the Sword Verse, teaches it. Firhad Hakim practising perfectly the Al Taqqiah.


Sugata Bose @Xavier Romero Frias : Fair enough. Then watch the videos of Ex-Muslims on YouTube. That will be revealing without laying the bait as mentioned by you.


Sugata Bose @YouTube [Sange Tanmoy] : Tanmoy, your feet should be down. It does not look nice that you are sitting with folded feet up on the bed when your senior, Shankar Kumar Chatterjee, is sitting feet down beside you. This is not only common courtesy but in keeping with aesthetics as well.


Sugata Bose @Prangopal Chakraborty : Not at all. This is my observation on history, material and spiritual, in all its comprehensive philosophical understanding that my lifelong study has allowed me access into. It encompasses the material-spiritual evolution in its entirety in so far as my Vedantic understanding of it goes. From gross matter to subtlest Spirit to the Absolute in its perfect freedom, these few lines say it all. It includes the interplay of historical forces, the sinusoidal motion of war and peace, the Hegelian dialectics of thesis, antithesis and synthesis, all tending to eventual freedom from the nightmare of bondage in ignorance of our spiritual nature in its ultimate essence. Maya and Brahman in their shade and light involve the rise and fall of evolving civilisation from barbarism to mass enlightenment, if ever such a divine destiny is to be terrestrially reached. 🕉 Hindu!


Sugata Bose @Ujjal Kumar Ghosh : So, there you are. One step forward and two steps back. Chinmoy Krishna Das' bail stayed by the Supreme Court of Bangladesh. 


Sugata Bose @Soumyadipta Roy : They have to pay for it in which currency---Indian rupee or Pak? Laughter has its limits when hypocrisy-hyper is practised to perfection and in a puerile, perfidious manner at that. The double game of minority appeasement at home which indirectly facilitates the rise of Islamic radicalism and the sweet talk on curbing it when the costs have been inordinately high, the utter innocence of history and the sealing of the Sanatani's fate by pandering to intolerant ideology in the name of high-sounding secularism, the opposition to national progress to secure electoral advantage at any cost---all these have exposed the political intent and primary motivation of these politicians masquerading as do-gooders of the motherland. We have had enough and seek no more of their sterile occupation of the political crease. We are a civilisation long enough and strong enough to survive on our own terms and do not need false sympathy from quarters unconcerned about national welfare. That much for it. 

🕉 Hindu! Vande Mataram!


Sugata Bose @Pkc Chowdhuree : But India's per capita GDP is far far lower than those of the nations it is going past in terms of aggregate GDP. That also has to be taken into reckoning. The economic growth of a nation is as much aggregate as per capita.


Sugata Bose @Manoj Sethi : The effect of karma is inviolable. Taking refuge in God to escape it is an act of cowardice. And cowardice further binds man to karma. It is only by facing the brute and suffering the inevitable consequence of work done coupled with discrimination and the determined resolve and action engaged in a dispassionate spirit to break the bonds that ever so lightly seemingly bind us---for the fetters to freedom are only forged in fantasy and never in real---that karma drops off like an unreal nightmare after one has woken up to Truth and Reality. Veerbhogyā vasundharā (the valorous enjoy the earth) and sakshamveer mokshaprāpt (the valorous are able to attain freedom). 🕉 Hindu!


Sugata Bose @Nilanjana Chakraborty : Brilliant yet again. Your conception is clearing by the day and that augurs well for the movement. 🕉 Hindu!


Sugata Bose @Nilanjana Chakraborty : আল্লাহ্ হু আকবর, ওলা হু উবর নয় | সত্যভাষণে এত ভয় ? তুমি না রামকৃষ্ণতনয়া ?


Sugata Bose @Tirthankar Bhattacharjee : No, only Rajneesh is alive before death and Osho lives after it.


Sugata Bose @Saswati Bhattacharya : Netaji used to address him as such indeed but the epithet 'Mahatma' preceded Netaji's advent into public life and politics. In fact it was not even Tagore who, as is popularly believed, had named Gandhiji so in 1915. The title had been accorded him by someone else, I cannot recall who.


Sugata Bose @Subhrajyoti Bhowmick : Spread the Qur'an. Awareness will spread. The theology is self-defeating and survives in its mass ignorance. With mass knowledge of its tenets it will have its free fall unto extinction save survival in traces as a historical relic.


Sugata Bose @Arindam Roy : Not that. The cost of an escalating war may be incalculable at a time when India is in a favourable position vis-a-vis China following the stiff tariff imposition by USA. This attack has come as a setback to Kashmir's rehabilitation and has been deliberately conducted to bring about the said setback. It is a China-Pak bait laid to unsettle India on all counts, a bait into which India must not fall. The suspension of the Indus water treaty will do the damage without a shot being fired, although the international community will pressurise India to revoke the measure on humanitarian grounds. Indian diplomacy will have to be at its best and the political will of the leadership at its strongest if Pakistan is to be brought groveling at the feet of India begging for mercy. Balochistan, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Sindh, POK and Afghanistan are breathing fire as it is and, given adequate covert support by India, will dismember Pakistan just as the Muslim League had done to the motherland in 1947 to carve out Pakistan. It is a waiting game that India ought to play, reserving her option to militarily strike when Pakistan is at its lowest ebb and when we have increased our diplomatic clout to its peak. Meanwhile, let Pakistan bring about its own downfall without us firing a shot.


Sugata Bose @Saswati Bhattacharya : No, you are mixing up Netaji's calling Gandhiji 'Father of the Nation' with that of addressing him as 'Mahatma'. The former title he gave him in his radio address from overseas as leader of the INA and that of the Provisional Government of Free India while the latter was in vogue from before Netaji's joining politics, even Tagore having called Gandhiji 'Mahatma' as early as 1915, although, I reiterate, even Tagore having been preceded in this particular address by someone else, I cannot quite recall who.


Sugata Bose @Ashok Chakraborty : তখনও 'স্বধর্মে স্থিত হও, ধার্মিক হও, ধর্মপ্রাণ হও, স্বীয়ধর্ম পালন কর, পরধর্ম বর্জন কর,' এই বিধান | বিবর্তনের চক্রে ধর্মলাভ তৃতীয় অধ্যায়, চতুর্থে মোক্ষলাভ | সনাতন ধর্মের তথা সনাতনীদের সংকটকালে মানবসভ্যতার রক্ষাকল্পে ক্ষাত়রবীর্য ও ব্রহ্মতেজ উভয়ের প্রদর্শন আবশ্যক, কাপুরুষের ন্যায়, মূঢ়ের ন্যায় ধর্মান্তরণ নয় | সর্বস্বার্থ পরিত্যাগ করা শ্রেয় কিন্তু স্বীয়ধর্ম কদাপি নয় | এতেই সর্বকল্যাণ সাধন সম্ভব যে কোনো পরিস্থিতিতে |


Sugata Bose @Prakash Gupta : You have a crystal-clear conception of the ends and means of Islam. Your relentless effort at awakening sleeping Hindus and wakeful hypocritical Hindus is beyond commendation. Keep up the good work and our conjoined effort will reap rich dividends in the end. Else, the fate will be fatal. And I sincerely hope that the stated end will not be too dearly bought, a la Partition as in 1946-47. 🕉 Hindu!


Sugata Bose @Ramen Chatterjee : ওরা বেইমানী করেনা | ওদেরই তো ইমান আছে, অর্থাৎ, আল্লাহ্ ও রসুলের প্রতি একনিষ্ঠ শরণাগতি | যাদের সাথে ওদের বিরোধ, তারাই তো বেইমান কারণ তারা মুশরিক কাফির, বেইমানের চূড়ান্ত |


Sugata Bose @Bikash Biswas : You are spot on but will not get much support for your observation from devotees drunk with the delusion of archaic  misconceptions bred in ignorance of core Islamic texts. I, however, hard-core devotee by self-assumpton that I am of Ramakrishna-Vivekananda, will prove exception to the rule, and wholly endorse your observation which is fair and square and needs but corroboration and not caustic contradiction. Few, alas, so very few can stand up for the truth of principle rather than its bright representation in personality, and herein lies the fault that has come to afflict Sanatanis who nonetheless profess to be dhārmik in the classical sense which they eminently are not. For it is the preeminence of principle over personality that defines and encompasses dharma. 🕉 Hindu!


Sugata Bose @Debaprasad Bhattacharya : Point is that even in the West the Ramakrishna Mission monks keep speaking---whenever they do so, that is,---the apparent harmony of all faiths, especially Abrahamic faiths, and their real oneness or sameness at source when it is purely a puerile proposition, knowing that scripturally they are widely divergent at source and highly antithetical towards each other in practice. Where sameness is, there faiths have all disappeared into the Being by way of organic evolution and by no way their scriptural proposition. The inability to call a spade a spade is tantamount to spreading lies, I reiterate whenever the Ramakrishna monks very infrequently do so to their credit and not always by way of agenda, it has to be understood. But a lie is a lie, however sweet it may appear to be on the surface and does a deal of disservice to the world, for the very Swami Vivekananda who had himself fallen for the pitfall of harmony of faiths by way of philosophical logic hardly applicable to Abrahamic faiths, had said that the brute had to be faced head on. That is the way of dharmasangsthāpan (establishment of the universal spiritual-ethical order) and not the other way round, that of uttering half-truths and whole lies along with a host of half-lies and whole truth. I know that the universe is a mixture of truth and untruth (satyam anityā mithuni krityā) but to use the aphorism to convenience betrays the grand purpose of establishing truth on earth which science for all its limitations nonetheless most effectively does, that of establishing principles by remaining grounded in fact and not fantasy as followers of the Avatar of Dakshineshwar have been from inception been fed to this day, beginning with the peerless Paramahamsa himself, on grounds of lack of academic knowledge and innocence of the material history of the world, to his leonine protégé of large sympathies and insufficient representation of the inharmonious idea in categorical terms in print for which he cannot be held more accountable than he is, and the successive generation of monks who having been fed the harmony gospel by their preceptor and lacking both the knowledge of Abrahamic scriptures in depth, coupled with their founder's apolitical injunction on them, have not served the cause of truth and its sibling peace well. 🕉 Hindu!


Sugata Bose @Subhrajyoti Bhowmick : Strange indeed. I am sure the temporary ban is on account of misinformation and misrepresentation about the content of some of his videos and will be revoked soon. (Ref: GOI's ban on Asad Noor's YouTube page post-Pahalgam terrorist attack)


Sugata Bose @Cheenmoy Saha : Loss of purity is not felt by the lecher of practised perversion, pernicious precedence in history and the perfected application of theological principle by way of divine decree.


Sugata Bose @Debaprasad Bhattacharya : But this onward movement must be in line with factual truth and not the uninformed utterances of Ramakrishna-Vivekanandas which are in contradiction to it but are nonetheless dogmatically held on to by their followers, monastic and lay, by the millions. After all, truth must triumph over untruth and principle be prioritised over personality. Else, the very edifice and foundation of dharma crumbles and what remains are the debris that are the deliberate and not deliberate refuse of religion.


Sugata Bose @Debaprasad Bhattacharya : And it is this scriptural learning in all its principled development that the focus must be on when determining truths rather than stray observations of spiritual masters gone haywire in non-contextual citing to bolster predetermined argument, even agenda, that is the bane of organised spiritual movements. And when spiritual masters of little or no erudition in history pass sweeping statements on religions such as Islam, basing their observations on personal spiritual realisations bearing no kinship to the scriptural codification or historical happenings since inception of such faiths, that the matter of allegiance to such pronouncements of seminal personalities by their multitude of followers becomes problematic, even suicidal in civilisational terms as is the case with Sri Ramakrishna's pronouncements on faiths such as Islam and Christianity about which he had little knowledge in scriptural terms.

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